Wuhan Coronavirus

[Box]

I'm not sure it falls into the baliwick of Lesko Brandon and the Routine Crimes Unit. But I'll go out on a limb & bet their decision was based more on "Holy Shit we can't continue to have all these essential people out of the supply chain for 10 days at a crack!" and less about suddenly discovering after 2 years that transmissibility is magically halved.

Glad you're feeling good, that's what's important. :)

RCU is a police procedural - if you want to watch a medical drama, tune in and watch Chicago Med or The Good Doctor

Lesko Brandon is already in over his head - lets not make the series any more complicated than it already is

[Badger52]

RCU is a police procedural - if you want to watch a medical drama, tune in and watch Chicago Med or The Good Doctor
I was thinking about the angle of the Federal Gov't routinely lyi...
Ahh, hell with it, you're right. Go forth & do Routine things.
Besides, those doctor shows suck.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Looks like the vaccine mandates and “show me your papers” (vaccine passports) are beginning to fall to the wayside of knowledge about the virus is further understood. England and Ireland have dropped these absurd rules and I’m sure other countries will begin to look at the efficacy of the vaccine as “didn’t live up to desired expectations.”

As my case illustrates: got first shot (Pfizer) followed two weeks later with second shot, and booster shot six month later according to “Fauci’s best practice of the science” we were forced to participate in. I still got the virus and would be a carrier and spreader for over a week. While my symptoms were mild and I consider myself fully recovered I still tested positive more than a week after being exposed.

I do understand the physiological process of how a virus that attacks the bloodstream and leads to a condition called “cytokines storm” have had a prominent effect on people with a weakened autoimmune disorder or other underlying medical conditions, but it seems very likely that Covid-19 or (SARS-CoV-2) has only exacerbated these conditions in the very old and very fat (severely obese) segments of our society.

I do believe it will be understood by medical doctors (not scientists) who routinely see real patients (not lab mice) that by order of the government (Dr’s Fauci, Birx, and others who have undermined the best practices and methods) to treat this virus as any other virus causing pneumonia and blood clotting disorders that, we already knew how to treat and isolate this disease, but those practices were called into question and disallowed for political or financial benefit.

Does Ivermectin, doxycycline, hydroxychloroquine, corticosteroids, blood thinners and monoclonal antibodies work to reduce or treat conditions associated with Covid-19 and prevent or lessen the risk of cytokines storm..? A bunch of doctors in the real world think so, but they have been labeled as quacks, misinformed or outright conspiracy theorists. Social media has gone so far as to silence them in the government’s effort to control the narrative and use fear, exploitation and manipulation to prevent them from speaking out and showing that old (inexpensive) medicines with documented long term historical data have proven to show moderate to very promising success in early treatment protocols or in people with known underlying medical conditions or those with early signs and symptoms of Covid.

The WHO has been mostly silent and seems to take their orders from the financial deep pockets of their controlling masters (those who fund their projects and their personal bank accounts.) If anyone is in denial about the true cause and mission of the United Nations and all their subordinate units they should rethink their positions and understanding of a not-for-profit organization that can purchase at will unlimited supplies, materials and Human Resources (para-military forces around the world.)

The CDC and FDA also seem to be manipulated (manipulating) by these same forces to control the data that they have direct and unlimited access to for their own benefit. It almost seems (it is) criminal what’s being done in the name of “science” to promote unknown therapies at the behest of “for-profit” pharmaceutical companies who have not only developed the testing procedures (kinda like it doesn’t matter who votes but who counts the vote) but the only “authorized” vaccines being used to “prevent, reduce, or control” the outbreak of Covid.

There will need be an investigation bigger than the 9-11 commission to find the truth about the development, origins, transmission and the “metrics” used to count the deceased and infected so that future responses like “social distancing”, “mask mandates”, and other government controls are not improperly applied again.

Some people (countries) should be charged with crimes while others should be vindicated for their efforts to show that other more promising methods were available to treat the patient and not the problem. Some people (heads of alphabet agencies, governors and CEO’s of certain pharmaceutical companies), including those who control the message (social media and MSN personalities) should be raked over the coals for journalistic malfeasance causing unnecessary injury and death.

As I mentioned, it’s not as important who votes as to who counts the votes. If it is true that hospital management manipulated the data for profit of who died of Covid and not with Covid for financial gain should also be stripped of further and future tax payer assistance (Medicare/Medicaid) and face criminal charges for their complicity in furtherance of a false narrative that led to fear and panic around the world. Is John Hopkin’s University complicit in this deception or were they only arbiters of misinformation (and should have been banned from social media as spreading false information based on unscientific data: garbage in - garbage out!

(Not) Sorry for the long Saturday morning rant, but being home all week and recovering from the one-day-Flu has led me to recently ask more questions than find the answers to others… like why did the CDC shorten the time of risk associated with transmission of disease from 10-days to 5-days if not because of industry CEO’s putting pressure on the “administration-in-charge” that profits were being cut by a lack of workforce: if not just the unvaccinated “deplorables” being fired, but those who would take advantage of a broken system where they are rewarded for staying home?

Where does the madness end..? And, just as importantly who will be held accountable?

[pcfixer]

(Not) Sorry for the long Saturday morning rant, but being home all week and recovering from the one-day-Flu has led me to recently ask more questions than find the answers to others… like why did the CDC shorten the time of risk associated with transmission of disease from 10-days to 5-days if not because of industry CEO’s putting pressure on the “administration-in-charge” that profits were being cut by a lack of workforce: if not just the unvaccinated “deplorables” being fired, but those who would take advantage of a broken system where they are rewarded for staying home?

Where does the madness end..? And, just as importantly who will be held accountable?

ODNT, All well said! :) :salute

[frostfire]

I have been pleasantly following counterpoints from UnHerd on various issues.
This one is an interview with the Israel vaccine chief. They were the first one to show the efficacy of mass vaccinations, but now are also the first one to own up to missteps in the early management. Their observation of how both the immunized and non immunized got mild symptoms of omicron is foretelling of how the virus will turn endemic for the rest of the world IMHO.

https://www.typeyouknowwhat.com/watch?v=bnMMYJKZvnU

[GratefulCitizen]

For any SMEs out there, I have a couple questions:

Do most of the comorbidities/high risk groups associated with bad outcomes for COVID also tend to come with increased blood viscosity?
Do many of the anecdotally effective medications for treating COVID also have blood-thinning side effects?

[Badger52]

Allegedly the memo from a major Dem polling outfit that is driving "relaxation" (i.e., "giving you back your rights") of Covid protocols.

Article here (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/we-found-the-science-behind-democrats-covid-flip-flop).

Straight jump (https://twitter.com/hamill_law/status/1497205184790872065) to the twatterpost with the 2-page memo attached.

You dirt people can move away now from indoor masking in public, except on Federal transportation because reasons.

[Airbornelawyer]

Probably consistent with that memo Badger52 refers to above, it seems like they are using the SOTU to declare a Democrat victory. Effectively, no more masks or social distancing rules. Not sure what was said or hinted about vaccine mandates and the like. Did anyone bother to pay closer attention?

[Badger52]

Not sure what was said or hinted about vaccine mandates and the like. Did anyone bother to pay closer attention?Just a vague reference in his rambling about his "4 steps" and that was simply recognizing that kids need to get back to school and people need to get back into businesses. The word 'mandate' was not uttered, on any topic.

Did you know that "hospitalizations [are] down by 77%" ? Sha-ZAMM!

We have lost so much to COVID-19. Time with one another. And worst of all, so much loss of life.
Let’s use this moment to reset. Let’s stop looking at COVID-19 as a partisan dividing line and see it for what it is: A God-awful disease.
Let’s stop seeing each other as enemies, and start seeing each other for who we really are: Fellow Americans.
We can’t change how divided we’ve been. But we can change how we move forward—on COVID-19 and other issues we must face together.

He then launched straight into the Squad-Head-Exploding topic of crime and funding of police...

[Old Dog New Trick]

If we declare that Covid is over; it must be so!








(People will die of something other than Covid… I hear the Flu is back and stronger than ever!)


I mean it’s like flying… everyone over 2 must wear a mask or become an example of scorn and inhumanity… that is until the airline serves drinks and food… then it “A-OK” for all to remove your mask (briefly) all at the same time!)

[TOMAHAWK9521]

I think it’s all clear. And I think we can all thank Box’s incessant reminder to “Eat your peas!” Thank you, Box, for giving us the world you knew we all needed, whether we want it or not.

[rsdengler]

I think it’s all clear. And I think we can all thank Box’s incessant reminder to “Eat your peas!” Thank you, Box, for giving us the world you knew we all needed, whether we want it or not.

I won't eat my peas...:D

[Box]

I won't eat my peas...:D

You don't have to eat them - the gubmint will be along soon enough to feed them to you.

Anyway, like I was sayin', pea's are the fruit of gubmint funded vegans. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, saute 'em.
There's uh, pea-kabobs, pea creole, pea gumbo. pan fried peas, deep fried peas, stir-fried peas.
There's pineapple peas, lemon peas, coconut peas, pepper peas, pea soup, pea stew, pea salad, peas and potatoes, pea burgers, pea sandwiches..
That- that's about it.

...regardless - you don't have to eat your peas, but you will definitely have your peas - one way or another

[Airbornelawyer]

You don't have to eat them - the gubmint will be along soon enough to feed them to you.

Anyway, like I was sayin', pea's are the fruit of gubmint funded vegans. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, saute 'em.
There's uh, pea-kabobs, pea creole, pea gumbo. pan fried peas, deep fried peas, stir-fried peas.
There's pineapple peas, lemon peas, coconut peas, pepper peas, pea soup, pea stew, pea salad, peas and potatoes, pea burgers, pea sandwiches..
That- that's about it.

...regardless - you don't have to eat your peas, but you will definitely have your peas - one way or another
The first time I ever went to England - I think it was for Battle Griffin - I discovered that McDonalds served mushy peas. If it had come in a jar labeled Gerber's, I wouldn't have been surprised.

[Badger52]

Anyway, like I was sayin', pea's are the fruit of gubmint funded vegans. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, saute 'em.
There's uh, pea-kabobs, pea creole, pea gumbo. pan fried peas, deep fried peas, stir-fried peas.
There's pineapple peas, lemon peas, coconut peas, pepper peas, pea soup, pea stew, pea salad, peas and potatoes, pea burgers, pea sandwiches..
That- that's about it.
That sounds like an ad for the Bubba Box Peas Company.

[Box]

That sounds like an ad for the Bubba Box Peas Company.

You must have misread my post - I would never stoop so low as to align myself with the corporate overlords that provide unethically sourced peas for an oppressive government system that has a long history of systemic bias against little round green vegetables.

Jobe Riden always said, life is like a can of Le Sueur Very Young Small Sweet Peas, you never know if you're going to get pearl onions or not.
...Jobe Riden always had a way of explaining things so I could understand them


That being said, it looks like a long blabbering speech by a cantankerous old man in mental decline was all it took to cure COVID...
...who knew

[cbtengr]

You must have misread my post - I would never stoop so low as to align myself with the corporate overlords that provide unethically sourced peas for an oppressive government system that has a long history of systemic bias against little round green vegetables.

Jobe Riden always said, life is like a can of Le Sueur Very Young Small Sweet Peas, you never know if you're going to get pearl onions or not.
...Jobe Riden always had a way of explaining things so I could understand them


That being said, it looks like a long blabbering speech by a cantankerous old man in mental decline was all it took to cure COVID...
...who knew

So as long as the peas are "Blood Free" and "Fair Trade" it is ok to consume them?

[Box]

So as long as the peas are "Blood Free" and "Fair Trade" it is ok to consume them?

Are you REALLY going to make me 'go there' ??? When you are dealing with peas and COVID (and the inevitable threat of unethical profiteering from human suffering), it breaks out like this.....

As more and more consumers are guiltd into ‘eco-friendly’ lifestyles, wearing poorly made but overpriced Toms Shoes (because Tom said for every pair of overpriced canvas shoes sold, he would give a poor person a shitty pair of canvas espadrilles) and unhealthy shitty tasting vegan meat substitutes (because vegans want to eat meat they just don’t want to feel guilty)
...well, I’m rambling again.

These fucking hippies are ruining my life.
Anyway...

Free trade coffee (just my opinion) is mostly either overpriced when compared to mainstream brands - or it tastes like shit when it is reasonably priced – but at least a person in an economically depressed area is making American wages disproportionate to their countries natural economic state (so that we can fuck up their countries economic balance to soothe our American guilt)

Then of course there is the “blood issue” – yes indeed – conflict free products. Limousine liberals just can’t sleep at night unless they can go to bed pretending that they are making “ethical consumer choices” in the name of economic justice and all that jazz. What that really means, is that they have ALL made sure that their business model includes a thorough “green washing” of all their goods and services. After all, you gotta grab onto that eco-conscious social equity consumer base while the grabbing is good...

So – here we are – concerned about the evils of “conflict free peas” and trust me – I’m going to give it to you straight. Just like Anthony St Fauxchi and resident Jobe Random have given it to us straight regarding COVID and vaccines and the decency and honesty of the Ukrainian energy industry.
Most businesses that are selling “conflict free” products gleefully hide behind something called “The Kimberley Process” – go ahead and google it up – I’ll wait........................













Wasn’t that neat – the UN even calls it a “certification scheme” so that you immediately recognize it as a program that is completely above board.
– who knew.
When you apply this “scheme” to the dark world of ‘Blood Free Peas’ you quickly find that just like COVID vaccines and political involvement with energy profiteering at the risk of global human tragedy, you’ll find that “The Scheme” uses very specific language that never really seems to take into account the harm done towards innocent people, children, and elderly citizens that just want to be left alone that are faced with forced labor, constant threats of violence, depressed economic opportunities, and a global military industrial complex that loves to interfere with a peaceful person’s ability to do a simple job that provides them with a sustainable lifestyle.

Your organically grown free trade conflict free Very Young Small Sweet Peas may have been approved by the “certification scheme” but it doesn’t take into account the countless victims that are killed raped kidnapped and sold into slavery simply because the profits aren’t “paying for the revolution” – the profits are going into your “foundation” which is perfectly legal and carefully hidden away in off shore bank accounts.

The scheme is a lot like the one used for COVID vaccines – or the Ukrainian energy sector - or the quietly ignored problem with human trafficking in Ukraine. As long as our politicians and their family members are serving on the countless boards of directors that make billions administering the “certification scheme” we can all rest well knowing our leaders have our best interests in mind.
...because ‘muh certification scheme’

Thankfully, there is a solution to getting stuck trying to navigate the dark underworld of organically grown free trade conflict free Very Young Small Sweet Peas...
...grow your own.

Fuck everyone else. Stop trying to worry about everyone else’s vegetable garden when we can’t even grow our own peas.

Or hey, get the jab, wear a mask, have your peas – do whatever you want – after all – its a free country...

[rsdengler]

You don't have to eat them - the gubmint will be along soon enough to feed them to you.

Anyway, like I was sayin', pea's are the fruit of gubmint funded vegans. You can barbecue 'em, boil 'em, broil 'em, bake 'em, saute 'em.
There's uh, pea-kabobs, pea creole, pea gumbo. pan fried peas, deep fried peas, stir-fried peas.
There's pineapple peas, lemon peas, coconut peas, pepper peas, pea soup, pea stew, pea salad, peas and potatoes, pea burgers, pea sandwiches..
That- that's about it.

...regardless - you don't have to eat your peas, but you will definitely have your peas - one way or another
Hey, you're not my father....Bahahahaha :D...I actually like peas, with mushrooms and onions...:p

[Box]

I actually like peas, with mushrooms and onions...:p

Because you've been conditioned to like peas.
The mushrooms and onions are just components of the illusion. Literally a sour root with some wild fungus - yet, you've been conditioned to feel like it is a treat.

Then you go and get your SECOND helping of peas.

Then you've got to go get a booster - more peas.

Then another booster of peas - then another - before long, you don't even question the menu - you just eat your peas.

Maybe they convince you to eat your peas with some mashed potatoes - but they aren't real mashed potatoes - they are just instant mashed potatoes. "Big Grocery" is just another industry that lies about the REAL ingredients...
corn syrup solids, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, sodium casein ate, dipotassium phosphate, sodium, silicoalminate, artificial color, mono-and triglycerides, soy lecithin, and artificial flavor
...there's NO FUCKING POTATOES in that list.

Wise up young lady - peas are just another crypto-fascist metaphor that leads down the road of Chinese Wuhan Laboratory Designer Virus control.



That is all

[7624U]

Box

How should we go about getting pea seeds for the garden that are free of this oppressive cycle.


Pea Oppresso Liber

[Airbornelawyer]

Would it make me a Karen if I start randomly screaming at people who continue to wear masks, especially outside, because they are endangering my family by parading around with these disease-ridden snot-rags on their faces?

Asking for a friend...

[Box]

Would it make me a Karen if I start randomly screaming at people who continue to wear masks, especially outside, because they are endangering my family by parading around with these disease-ridden snot-rags on their faces?

Asking for a friend...

Only if you identify as 'right of social center'
anyone on the left can do whatever they please with the support of the establishment

If permanent Washington says masks are ok - then you just need to get over yourself until permanent Washington declares a sudden change in the interpretation of the scientific agenda of the Wuhan Lab Chinese Corona Bat Virus narrative

[rsdengler]

Because you've been conditioned to like peas.
The mushrooms and onions are just components of the illusion. Literally a sour root with some wild fungus - yet, you've been conditioned to feel like it is a treat.

Then you go and get your SECOND helping of peas.

Then you've got to go get a booster - more peas.

Then another booster of peas - then another - before long, you don't even question the menu - you just eat your peas.

Maybe they convince you to eat your peas with some mashed potatoes - but they aren't real mashed potatoes - they are just instant mashed potatoes. "Big Grocery" is just another industry that lies about the REAL ingredients...
corn syrup solids, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, sodium casein ate, dipotassium phosphate, sodium, silicoalminate, artificial color, mono-and triglycerides, soy lecithin, and artificial flavor
...there's NO FUCKING POTATOES in that list.

Wise up young lady - peas are just another crypto-fascist metaphor that leads down the road of Chinese Wuhan Laboratory Designer Virus control.



That is all

I still won't eat my peas...hahahaha...:D

[Badger52]

I still won't eat my peas...hahahaha...:DBecome ungovernable!

[Box]

I still won't eat my peas...hahahaha...:D

Just a reminder, but it was a user going by the name "rsdengler" that posted the following comment...

I actually like peas, with mushrooms and onions...:p

Either way - it reinforces my point that "the left" is pervasive by nature.
You dont like peas? No problem - the left will FORCE you to have peas. Even if they have to destroy the supply chain so that your only choices is 'peas please' or a nice damp room in the starvation wing of the local re-education center.

Oh wait - did you say say that you LIKE peas, with mushrooms an onions?
No problem; the left will simply make it so unpleasant for you to enjoy peas with mushrooms and onions that you will refuse to eat them any more.
...at which time the left will FORCE you to have all the peas you can handle from the comfort and safety of your damp room in the starvation wing of the local re-education center.

Fear not though, the Disinformation Governance Board (which oddly enough is a Homeland Security agency - not an part of the intelligence or legal community) will make sure that you are only receiving government approved information about the finer points of a gluten free vegan low fat no carb paleo diet consisting of 'Victory Peas' and 'Freedom Water' that protect you from "the virus"

...all is well. Remain calm. Get your shots.



Dont worry about the peas - the Disinformation Governance Board will take care of that for you.

[rsdengler]

Just a reminder, but it was a user going by the name "rsdengler" that posted the following comment...



Oh wait - did you say say that you LIKE peas, with mushrooms an onions?
No problem; the left will simply make it so unpleasant for you to enjoy peas with mushrooms and onions that you will refuse to eat them any more.
...at which time the left will FORCE you to have all the peas you can handle from the comfort and safety of your damp room in the starvation wing of the local re-education center.


...all is well. Remain calm. Get your shots.



Dont worry about the peas - the Disinformation Governance Board will take care of that for you.


Lol, the Left will most likely tie me down, and use a hose stuffed with smashed peas and force feed it down my throat.:D

[Box]

That does seem to be their M.O.

...that and lying about the wuhan coronavirus scam to exert control over us lowly peasants

[GratefulCitizen]

This guy needs to be cancelled for spreading disinformation.
He’s in complete disagreement with the official line spouted by Bill Gates and others.

https://www.kusi.com/bill-gates-says-covid-is-kind-of-like-the-flu-and-that-the-vaccines-are-imperfect/
Or
https://youtu.be/J5ZaQ3DP040

[Box]

just remember - we should never wish for bad things to happen to people like him

[Badger52]

just remember - we should never wish for bad things to happen to people like himI'll volunteer to be the "out there" guy at my grand-kids Thanksgiving table who can say "Still got the shovel..."

[EricV]

Well, at least I'll have a song to sing while eating my Peas!! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BcK3vR6bEc

Sitting in the jail house on a summer's day
Chatting with my mess-mates, passing time away
Lying in the shadows underneath the cots
Goodness, how delicious, eating Box's peas.

Peas, peas, peas, peas
Eating goober peas
Goodness, how delicious,
Eating Box's peas.

[Airbornelawyer]

No better song about peas than this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74UZNexK8a4

[Badger52]

Not directly WuFlu related but the grounds for this temporary block (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-transgender-mandate-blocked-christian-appeal) from a Fed District Court is interesting.
BLUF:
"No government agency ought to be in the business of evaluating the sincerity of another’s religious beliefs,"

Yeah, hey Judge. How about a CC: to the MILDEPs and Service Chiefs and the lawyers for those who submitted a request for religious exemption from being jabbed and were denied, which is nearly everyone who tried.
:munchin

[Box]

If the Chaplain, the Doc, and the Commander all have reason to believe that you're not religious enough, then gosh darn it, you just aren't religious enough.
...submit - get your shots - or else

[Surf n Turf]

If the Chaplain, the Doc, and the Commander all have reason to believe that you're not religious enough, then gosh darn it, you just aren't religious enough.
...submit - get your shots - or else

I’ll be damned, those ARE peas

Well done, Box :cool:

SnT

[JimP]

I see a number of these run through our office. Every one I have seen, with the exception of one (1)/Uno/ich, the Chaplain has interviewed them and written a memo (required) that their religious belief is "sincere."

They do the Doc counseling, Chaplain counseling, CDR writes a memo as to their MOS and the impacts of NOT getting the shot on the mission, and on it goes up the chain of command.

I have seen a hundred (?) at this point. I am unaware of ANY being granted DESPITE the Chaplain stating their religious belief was sincere. The regulation even says to err on the side of religious liberty.

Doesn't matter. One GO who routinely justifies his non-concurrence by claiming: "you just can't have everyone disobeying orders. Then you get anarchy." Doesn't address the impact of THAT individual in THAT job not getting the jab.

They all go up to the Army Surgeon General. To my knowledge, not ONE has been granted.

Why the Army surgeon general is ruling on religious exemptions is beyond me.

[Badger52]

...CDR writes a memo as to their MOS and the impacts of NOT getting the shot on the mission, and on it goes up the chain of command.
Sounds to me like the CO memo lets the GO off the hook. Who is going to write an endorsement that says "Sir, no big deal, we can easily do without this dude/dudette?"

Some levels of FUBAR are timeless.

[Old Dog New Trick]

9,000,000 people per year die as a result of poor air quality, we really should get a handle on this… maybe masks will help; oh wait we’ve already been wearing them and it didn’t help.

One in six killed by pollution worldwide study finds. CNN

https://apple.news/Aq9yzehuZRBe0eC703B3H4g




(Wonder how many of these deaths were attributed to Covid?) :munchin

[Badger52]

(Wonder how many of these deaths were attributed to Covid?) :munchinThe cover story that keeps on givin' right?
:cool:

[Box]

(Wonder how many of these deaths were attributed to Covid?):munchin


"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"
- Hilarious Clifton, circa 2013

[JJ_BPK]

UK now says the Experimental mRNA jabs "could" permanently alter current and future virus resistance??

I think there has been a slew of mumbling here in the USA but has any accredited US source posted a paper with Yay or Nay??


British Government (UK Health Security Agency) Admits: COVID-19 Vaccines PERMANENTLY DAMAGE Natural Immune System, World, Hal Turner, 17 May 2022 Hits: 40354

The UK government admits that the COVID-19 Experimental mRNA "vaccine" has damaged the natural immune system of those who have been double-dosed.

The government has confessed that double-vaxxed (or more) people, will never -- ever -- be able to acquire full natural immunity to COVID variants - or possibly any other virus.

Keen observers of this COVID debacle are now saying "The real pandemic will now begin" because all the people whose immune systems are permanently damaged, may not be able to fight-off __any__ future viral infection!

In its Week 42 "COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report," (Direct Link HERE) the UK Department of Health admits on page 23 that:

"N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of [the vax]."

It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is essentially - get this - permanent.


https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/british-government-admits-covid-19-vaccines-permanently-damage-natural-immune-system?fbclid=IwAR24jI_Kk-DjqPdOmnLMdcM2i7m9FU8nY4K-3FmxgB9kA2UdgI4YDeeOWEs


Although the grandkids visit for dinner & a movie at my place every weekend, I have been fortunate to date, nothing worth testing for (asymptomatic, maybe?). I have had two shots, not planning for buster(S)..

On the other hand, my daughter, her hubby, and three grandkids seem to be in a perpetual revolving cycle,, all with minor sniffles, coughs, and fevers. Additionally, my daughter and her family in the UK are also cycling

Of note: I think we have all had the Pfizer variety.

Three COVID-19 vaccines are authorized or approved for use in the United States to prevent COVID-19. Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna are COVID-19 mRNA vaccines and are preferred. You may get Johnson & Johnson's Janssen COVID-19 vaccine in some situations.




A very concerned grandparrent:mad::mad::mad:

[Old Dog New Trick]

A very concerned grandparrent:mad::mad::mad:

I think we are all fu_ked in way or another. Humans have evolved for thousands of years before other humans interfered in one way or another, both positively and negatively, and while most vaccines have been vital to fend off diseases occurring naturally and through other causes, they were, for the most part thoroughly tested over long periods of time with trials that could be verified and replicated to show benefits out weighed risk.

This was not!

As I’ve told my wife, we may have caused significant damage long term to satisfy both employment requirements (for me) and physician endorsements (for her, post cancer survivor) to appease the masses.

I hope I’m wrong!

I’m happy I never forced my 15y/o son to get any of the Covid vaccines and I’m more hopeful that he will be stronger because of it.

The future will be very interesting to see who was right and/or what was best.

Good luck to you and your family, and all those who read and post here. My heart truly goes out to all present.

[Airbornelawyer]

So (1) covid-caused pneumonia really sucks and (2) the VA is incompetent. I spent Saturday in the ER at the DC VA. They did no tests other than a covid swab and then sent me home. On Tuesday, after feeling near death, I went to the Inova Fair Oaks Hospital ER where they took a chest x-ray, did blood work and put my on an IV with NaCl, Toradol and Zofran.

I still feel really bad, with a persistent cough, alternating chills and sweat, no appetite and constant dehydration, which make sleep hard since I wake up every 1-2 hours to piss.

[sg1987]

Prayers for a speedy recovery.

[Razor]

Hope you're feeling better soon.

[Swoop]

Get well soon.

[Badger52]

So (1) covid-caused pneumonia really sucks Pri Doc says (in hindsight) I had that before they publicly said it was here and/or were even testing for it. Treated only for the pneumonia symptoms.

Bang the door down to get with respiratory therapy and keep the lungs working to whatever efficiency you can muster.
And yes, it sucked.

[JJ_BPK]

I still feel really bad, with a persistent cough, alternating chills and sweat, no appetite and constant dehydration, which make sleep hard since I wake up every 1-2 hours to piss.

Prayers for a speedy recovery :[

[doctom54]

So (1) covid-caused pneumonia really sucks and (2) the VA is incompetent. I spent Saturday in the ER at the DC VA. They did no tests other than a covid swab and then sent me home. On Tuesday, after feeling near death, I went to the Inova Fair Oaks Hospital ER where they took a chest x-ray, did blood work and put my on an IV with NaCl, Toradol and Zofran.

I still feel really bad, with a persistent cough, alternating chills and sweat, no appetite and constant dehydration, which make sleep hard since I wake up every 1-2 hours to piss.

Hope you recover quickly.

I worked at the local VA about 1997-8 for a couple of shifts in the ER.
I'll never work there again nor will I go there as a patient. I know some people who have had a good experience but from a professional viewpoint they don't meet the standards.

[Stobey]

Get well soon - and get Ivermectin. That will have you getting over the Who-Flung-Poo-Virus in no time.

[MR2]

Hope you recover quickly.

but from a professional viewpoint they don't meet the standards.

Bingo!


Ivermectin Use Yielded 74 Percent Reduction in Excess Deaths (https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/most-intensive-ivermectin-use-had-74-percent-reduction-in-excess-deaths-in-peru-new-study-5470885)

[Badger52]

Bingo!


Thank you. Now I'm inspired, so...

[cbtengr]

Thank you. Now I'm inspired, so...

They are chomping at the bit and in some places already calling for masks.

[bblhead672]

They are chomping at the bit and in some places already calling for masks.

A couple of good citizens getting ready to go to the People's Market. :D

[Gypsy]

Hope you are doing better Airbornelawyer

[Gypsy]

They are chomping at the bit and in some places already calling for masks.

Coming up on an election year...

[mojaveman]

It's going around again in Southern California. My brother's a doctor and just called me the other day. Said this is about the fourth time he's had it and it laid him out.

I've had it twice already and have lost two friends to it. The first time I got it was about a month after I got the vaccine. :eek:

[MR2]

If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail...

If you only test for COVID, everyone will have COVID...

The flu is real. COVID variants have been present since the flu was first discovered.

Free (taxpayer-funded) test kits will only fuel the propaganda hysteria and election cheating control efforts during what is looking like another normal flu season.

[JJ_BPK]

If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail...

If you only test for COVID, everyone will have COVID...



I think that's what they want.
One test and the answer is always the same

Chinese Virus


"Tests are available for all of these respiratory viruses," says Dr. Long.

"At Houston Methodist, we actually have a single test that tests for the four viruses at the same time — flu A, flu B, RSV, and COVID-19."

Knowing whether it's the flu, COVID-19 or a cold can help make sure you get the right treatment, but we will stall it Chinese Virus. Sep 8, 2023

[Badger52]

If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail...

If you only test for COVID, everyone will have COVID...

The flu is real. COVID variants have been present since the flu was first discovered.

Free (taxpayer-funded) test kits will only fuel the propaganda hysteria and election cheating control efforts during what is looking like another normal flu season.Exactimundo. The home tests are no better than running a PCR at a cycle threashold of 43 - you gon' be positive, y'all.

[MR2]

I'm getting butt tired of all this bullshit. :D

[Badger52]

Covid Redux + HRC "Putin's Gonna Do It Again!" + Election 2024

It doesn't take the Ghost of Richard Feynman to establish a relationship.

[bblhead672]

If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail...

If you only test for COVID, everyone will have COVID...

The flu is real. COVID variants have been present since the flu was first discovered.

Free (taxpayer-funded) test kits will only fuel the propaganda hysteria and election cheating control efforts during what is looking like another normal flu season.

I keep asking people, "Do you know how to not get Covid? Don't test for it."

The scam continues...

[SF_BHT]

My sister was on vacation and was feeling cold symptoms. So she did what all liberal idiots do they take a cold Covid test. Guess what it came back positive and what did she do two days later she gets on an airplane and flies back across the country. She’s acting just like she did during the pandemic. :rolleyes:

[Badger52]

My sister was on vacation and was feeling cold symptoms. So she did what all liberal idiots do they take a cold Covid test. Guess what it came back positive and what did she do two days later she gets on an airplane and flies back across the country. She’s acting just like she did during the pandemic. :rolleyes:Sorry for your burden sir.
:cool:

[SF_BHT]

Sorry for your burden sir.
:cool:

Every family has to have one. It’s fun winding her up and it is so easy :D

[Airbornelawyer]

Hope you are doing better Airbornelawyer

About 98% recovered. I still seem to have a persistent phlegm issue, but that might be a legacy of earlier issues like 9-11 exposure when I was at the World Trade Center.

Thanks for your concern.

[Divemaster]

This disease is being discussed on the Pandemic Flu thread. Since the coronavirus is not influenza, I thought it deserves it's own thread. I am not in the medical field, but I am in the affected region. I'll kick this off with my now removed post from the flu thread:

Under 3,000 total Wuhan Coronavirus cases globally (vast majority in China) and 80 deaths (all in China). Surgical masks are now almost impossible to find in China and Hong Kong. By contrast, here's a fun infographic on what the flu has done in the United States alone just since 01 OCT. Everyone take a step back and breathe...through your mask if you have one.

It is now over 3 1/2 years since I started this thread. What a wild ride since, eh?

[Badger52]

It is now over 3 1/2 years since I started this thread. What a wild ride since, eh?Indeed sir. Now we have social media complaining about Moderna sponsoring ads on Jeopardy!

[MR2]

The Global IQ Failure continues...

[GratefulCitizen]

The feed of news, culture, and social media is designed to create a never ending drip of negative emotions.
This primes a population for panic when a threat is presented which cannot be accurately assessed.

A portion of the population will do anything to relieve the stress.
They will latch onto whatever gives hope, even it is somewhat irrational.

When the more resilient portion of the population dares to point out the irrational nature of the the behaviors which bring hope, they are attacked by the less resilient portion.
This is because it again exposes the less resilient to the stress from which they have finally found relief.

Sadly, a large portion of the population would rather have relief from the stress of dealing with reality, at the cost of their freedom.

None of us are getting out of this life alive and intact.
If everyone were taught that lesson when young and taught not to fear it, they might develop a personal strategy to make the most of the time they are given.

A culture based on materialism and hedonism, lacking any enduring meaning, is ripe to be conquered and subjugated.

[Box]

It is now over 3 1/2 years since I started this thread. What a wild ride since, eh?

...and people are still walking around Walmart wearing their religious face coverings

[SF_BHT]

I’m starting to see more people wearing them here in NM in the last 30 days. All I can do is smile an think how stupid they are. We have a lot of stupid here:D

[Paslode]

...and people are still walking around Walmart wearing their religious face coverings

They wear them with cultish pride. The ones who wear them outdoors while exercising I find particularly humorous.

[Box]

I’m starting to see more people wearing them here in NM in the last 30 days. All I can do is smile an think how stupid they are. We have a lot of stupid here:D

Make no mistakes my friend - these people are not stupid. These are people with Masters Degrees in the sciences. These are people with PHDs in a broad range of fields of study. These are the people teaching in American Universities. These are the people teaching in American high schools. These are the elementary school teachers that are encouraging young people to mutilate their genitalia.

These are even the people running our government.
They are not stupid.
They are malevolent - for sure - but they are not stupid.

[Swoop]

They wear them with cultish pride. The ones who wear them outdoors while exercising I find particularly humorous.

Perhaps even more humorous and disturbing are the ones wearing them while driving in an enclosed vehicle by themselves.

[Paslode]

Perhaps even more humorous and disturbing are the ones wearing them while driving in an enclosed vehicle by themselves.

Very true! And most of those same people would have stood around waiting to be allowed entry at COSTCO where an up wind sneeze or cough would have release the 'deadly' spray 'The Science' warned us about. Some of these very same people would likely turn you in to the EPA if you were scraping lead paint on a windy day.

And many of these same people believe Jim Jones was a mad man, and are stupefied how any parent would drink poison Koolaid let alone allow their children to ingest the toxic brew.

I find there are some parallels to the run up to the 2008 election when it seemed everywhere I turned someone was asking me "Have you read the book"......and they weren't talking about the Bible.

[bblhead672]

Saw a man pushing cart in Sam's yesterday with a young boy in the cart. The man was masked, the boy was not. They can't even see the stupidity of what they are doing.

[MR2]

Maybe they are wearing masks to prevent being inoculated by the new airborne vaccine...

[Box]

Saw a man pushing cart in Sam's yesterday with a young boy in the cart. The man was masked, the boy was not. They can't even see the stupidity of what they are doing.

Maybe the kid in the shopping cart is a young republican.
Betting odds are pretty good that the guy pushing the cart is a democrat though.