National Review is Against Trump

[SF-TX]

Trump said, “Well I think the establishment actually is against me but really coming on line because they see me as opposed to Cruz, who is a nasty guy who can’t get along with anybody. Look, at a certain point, we got to make deals. We can’t have a guy who stands in the middle of the Senate floor and every other senator thinks he’s a whack job. Right you know — You have to make deals, you have to get along, that’s the purpose of what our founders created, and Ted cannot get along with anybody.

So, Trump is the outsider-insider and Ted Cruz is the insider-outsider?

John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Paul Ryan, et al made deals with the Democrats and 'got along.' How has that worked out? If you support crony capitalism and big government, or statist policies, great. If you support limited, constitutional government, not so much.

[akv]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Reagan never groveled

Agreed, and Trump is no Reagan. Reagan was a self made man and not born into wealth. His autobiography mentions growing up eating oatmeal with hamburger in it as a daily meal while struggling with an alcoholic father in the Great Depression.

Two small anecdotes from his autobiography show his humility. President Reagan was pistol shooting at his ranch with his secret service detail when he asked them why they didn't shoot from a natural crouch. He then realized with humble gratitude they trained to make themselves as big targets as possible while protecting him.

The second deals with the crucial nuclear arms talks with Gorbachev in Switzerland. The Reagan's were staying in a private villa. He promised the owner's kids he would feed their goldfish. The most powerful man in the world under stress from high stakes nuclear negotiations apologized to these kids for forgetting to feed their goldfish, and had the goldfish replaced.

My $.02, I don't see anything close to this level of strength or humility in Trump, which is why the prospects of replacing a divisive Marxist wimp with an equally divisive arrogant bully does not bode well for our nation.

[GratefulCitizen]

Originally Posted by akv

Agreed, and Trump is no Reagan. Reagan was a self made man and not born into wealth. His autobiography mentions growing up eating oatmeal with hamburger in it as a daily meal while struggling with an alcoholic father in the Great Depression.

Two small anecdotes from his autobiography show his humility. President Reagan was pistol shooting at his ranch with his secret service detail when he asked them why they didn't shoot from a natural crouch. He then realized with humble gratitude they trained to make themselves as big targets as possible while protecting him.

The second deals with the crucial nuclear arms talks with Gorbachev in Switzerland. The Reagan's were staying in a private villa. He promised the owner's kids he would feed their goldfish. The most powerful man in the world under stress from high stakes nuclear negotiations apologized to these kids for forgetting to feed their goldfish, and had the goldfish replaced.

My $.02, I don't see anything close to this level of strength or humility in Trump, which is why the prospects of replacing a divisive Marxist wimp with an equally divisive arrogant bully does not bode well for our nation.

Haven't been trying to endorse Trump, just making observations concerning his appeal.
There are things he does right from which the other candidates (or any potential leader) could learn.

[Team Sergeant]

What's the National Review? A blog that no one reads like the huffington post?

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

What's the National Review? A blog that no one reads like the huffington post?

NR, like the HuffPo is a vehicle of propaganda.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by akv

My $.02, I don't see anything close to this level of strength or humility in Trump, which is why the prospects of replacing a divisive Marxist wimp with an equally divisive arrogant bully does not bode well for our nation.

Do you just not understand, or is there some inexplicable trend toward self-destruction going on with you people?

What's better for the Country, a marxist-feminist or a capitalist bully? 'Cause that's the choice we seem to have right now.
You perfectionists need to wake up

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Do you just not understand, or is there some inexplicable trend toward self-destruction going on with you people?

What's better for the Country, a marxist-feminist or a capitalist bully? 'Cause that's the choice we seem to have right now.
You perfectionists need to wake up

Some oldies but goodies - quotes on socialism in one recent article.

Everything You Need To Know About Socialism in 20 Quotes
John Hawkins | Jan 12, 2016
TownHall

1) "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money." -- Margaret Thatcher

2) "It is the common error of Socialists to overlook the natural indolence of mankind; their tendency to be passive, to be the slaves of habit, to persist indefinitely in a course once chosen. Let them once attain any state of existence which they consider tolerable, and the danger to be apprehended is that they will thenceforth stagnate; will not exert themselves to improve, and by letting their faculties rust, will lose even the energy required to preserve them from deterioration. Competition may not be the best conceivable stimulus, but it is at present a necessary one, and no one can foresee the time when it will not be indispensable to progress." -- John Stuart Mill

3) "Socialism is when government's taking care of you, you send all your money to the government, the government decides how to spend it instead of letting the people spend it and make all those decisions." -- Bob Latta

4) "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." -- Adolf Hitler

5) "What distinguished Nazism from other brands of socialism and communism was not so much that it included more aspects from the political right (though there were some). What distinguished Nazism was that it forthrightly included a worldview we now associate almost completely with the political left: identity politics. This was what distinguished Nazism from doctrinaire communism, and it seems hard to argue the marriage of one leftist vision to another can somehow produce right-wing progeny." -- Jonah Goldberg

6) "The goal of socialism is communism." -- Vladimir Lenin

7) "This isn't new. Those who favor socialism always make the moral case for it. The truth is, maybe they actually believe in it, but in the real world, socialism harms, it weakens the economies of countries that have tried it. It just does. Weaker economies hurt everybody in them. Socialism kills incentive, opportunity, freedom. It is the opposite of what America is all about. Look, socialism always harms the people it claims to help the most. It handicaps them, leaving them weaker, less self-determined, less free." -- Bobby Jindal

8) “When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” -- Frédéric Bastiat

9) "Socialism states that you owe me something simply because I exist. Capitalism, by contrast, results in a sort of reality-forced altruism: I may not want to help you, I may dislike you, but if I don't give you a product or service you want, I will starve. Voluntary exchange is more moral than forced redistribution." -- Ben Shapiro

10) “I was guilty of judging capitalism by its operations and socialism by its hopes and aspirations; capitalism by its works and socialism by its literature.” -- Sidney Hook

11) "In 1989, for two hours' labor at the minimum wage, an American worker could obtain, at a corner Sizzler, a feast more opulent, more nutritionally rich and gastronomically diverse than anything available to almost all the citizens of the socialist world (including the elite) at almost any price." -- David Horowitz

12) “In practice, socialism didn’t work. But socialism could never have worked because it is based on false premises about human psychology and society, and gross ignorance of human economy.” -- David Horowitz

13) "I believe that all forms of socialism have been proven over time to result in a loss of both economic and civil liberties, with increasing poverty." -- John Mackey

14) "Socialism values equality more than liberty." -- Dennis Prager

15) "Socialism is for those who think most people are losers. Capitalism is for those who think most people can take care of themselves." -- John Hawkins

16) "Socialism proposes no adequate substitute for the motive of enlightened selfishness that today is at the basis of all human labor and effort, enterprise and new activity." -- William Howard Taft

17) “Socialism provides safety in numbers. And that’s OK, if you don’t mind trading your name—your identity and individualism — for a number.” -- Jarod Kintz

18) “The champions of socialism call themselves progressives, but they recommend a system which is characterized by rigid observance of routine and by a resistance to every kind of improvement. They call themselves liberals, but they are intent upon abolishing liberty. They call themselves democrats, but they yearn for dictatorship. They call themselves revolutionaries, but they want to make the government omnipotent. They promise the blessings of the Garden of Eden, but they plan to transform the world into a gigantic post office." -- Ludwig von Mises

19) "Socialists cry 'Power to the people', and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean--power over people, power to the State." -- Margaret Thatcher

20) "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." -- Winston Churchill

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnh...uotes-n2103130

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Do you just not understand, or is there some inexplicable trend toward self-destruction going on with you people?

What's better for the Country, a marxist-feminist or a capitalist bully? 'Cause that's the choice we seem to have right now.
You perfectionists need to wake up

I will take the Bully for $100.

[NurseTim]

So far he is all talk, no action. He talks a good game. But his properties are still posted no firearms, yet he claims to be a staunch second amendment supporter. Any pictures of him even holding a gun? He has a ccw in NYC, so what, that ain't hard for a billionaire.

He has come out for universal health care.

This is reminding me of pelosi saying, " we have to pass it to find out what's in it." We have to elect him to see if he was just playing us. Pass, didn't work out well when pelosi did it, I learned my lesson. At least there are pictures of Cruz with a weapon in his hands.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by NurseTim

So far he is all talk, no action. He talks a good game.

This is true, but it appears that no matter what, Trump is going to run away with the RNC nomination and the only option to counter Bern and HRC.

[akv]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Do you just not understand, or is there some inexplicable trend toward self-destruction going on with you people? What's better for the Country, a marxist-feminist or a capitalist bully? 'Cause that's the choice we seem to have right now.
You perfectionists need to wake up

Respectfully, perfectionist? Really? The only semblance of perfection here is Trump is such a perfect asshat the man is immune from hemorrhoids. This "lesser evil" strategy is a losing bet.

Trump, a Vietnam draft dodger, who then had the gall to badmouth POW John McCains service, this is the guy the nation will unite behind? We bash Zero for abandoning our allies, you know the British Parliament debated banning Trump from their country this month. What do we tell the Kurds or our interpreter allies who fought and bled alongside our troops in Afghanistan and Iraq if Trump is elected? Hey sorry, we promised to get you and your families out for your service to America, but you know we have this Muslim ban now?

Hope and wishful thinking led to people blindly pounding the table for candidates like Herman Cain before realizing a dirtball who happens to be a Republican is still a dirtball.

If you want to win this election either, Cruz or maybe Rubio can beat the witch. She will eat Trump alive because while entertaining, he alienates so many demographics for so many reasons it's like a dark comedy, for those of you who support him do you really believe the recent 180 he has done to the right, or are you just hoping?

[sinjefe]

Originally Posted by NurseTim

So far he is all talk, no action. He talks a good game. But his properties are still posted no firearms, yet he claims to be a staunch second amendment supporter. Any pictures of him even holding a gun? He has a ccw in NYC, so what, that ain't hard for a billionaire.

He has come out for universal health care.

This is reminding me of pelosi saying, " we have to pass it to find out what's in it." We have to elect him to see if he was just playing us. Pass, didn't work out well when pelosi did it, I learned my lesson. At least there are pictures of Cruz with a weapon in his hands.

^^^^^Hear, hear!

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by akv

If you want to win this election either, Cruz or maybe Rubio can beat the witch.

Then what? 4-8 more years of business as usual with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. The repubs have had the majority in both houses for at least 4 years, they had a mandate and haven't done squat.

[tonyz]

Bottom line we need to throw our weight behind whoever OPPOSES the unindicted (yet) criminal socialist.

Sitting on the sidelines because your candidate may not be the one you support is national suicide by Commie.

It really is early...anything can happen.

I did like this quote...

Ted Cruz: "If You See a Candidate Who Washington Embraces, Run and Hide."

I'd like to add my own twist...if you see a candidate that the establishment Republicrats embrace...prepare to lose...again !

[abc_123]

My wife, A Right-leaning, Southern woman came out yesterday and said that skipping the debate would not hurt Trump. She said this morning that it has made her like him more. She has changed from being a Jeb,Cruz,Rubio person to now moving towards Trump. She wants more details from him and thinks he is a bit "scary", as in "fear of the unknown", but likes the fact that he seems to be making his own decisions, and does not feel obliged to do what other people think that he should. She also believes that he will be good for business in this country.

She thinks that that Trump will be attractive to mainstream women voters and is convinced that Trump will take the South.

This was in the context of a conversation we werehaving about the upcoming Repub debate.

For reference she believes that the last 8yrs under Obama has been a disaster and distrusts all politicians in general.

just another data point...