Civil Unrest Continues to Build Around Eastern Oregon Rancher Case

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by Bleed Green

Thank you so much for the laugh Mr. Billy. It is amazing how funny some things are after a midnight shift and that is going to leave me chuckling until the mimi monster hits me.

Sad shit is, I hear fuckwads talking like this on a regular basis around academic circles.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by 82ndAA

I hope this isn't true. I hope someone here can stamp this out as a rumor.

"Oath Keepers has received very credible information from an active duty source within the special operations community that at least one SOD-X (Reserve/National Guard Special Operations Detachment, see this, this, and this) unit under the command of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) has been tasked for this standoff at the Malheur Wildlife Reserve and moved to the area. That source contacted one of our long-time members who is a retired Special Forces 1st Sgt (who has known the source for over twenty years)."

https://www.oathkeepers.org/urgent-w...e-immediately/

I would not get my panties all wadded up over this information, consider the source, The Oathkeepers. They have been caught with complete "Green Beret" frauds in their association. I place as much value on this crap as I do with alex jones and paul watson.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Wow.

I stand corrected. Thank you for calling me out on this one. The correct term should be "Person-the-fuck-up".

I'd be careful using that word as well.

When broken down ... Per - Son ... it has the root word ... son ... which we all know, denotes a male of parental lineage, which will undoubtedly upset someone, some day ... if they're not already.

As to note, you must also be careful in using the word Human ... It too has that word in it ... Man.

Just some food for thought.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by 82ndAA

... That source contacted one of our long-time members who is a retired Special Forces 1st Sgt (who has known the source for over twenty years)."...

A retired Special Forces 1st Sgt is very rare. Even rarer these days.

Prior to the 18 series a Medic, Commo Man or Engineer would make the 8 list - but in their career field. They would disappear off to the conventional Army and usually be placed in a 1SG position. After a few years they would retire or make the 9 list and maybe come back to SF. So if they retired as an E8 they would be able to call themselves a retired Special Forces 1SG.

There were a few SF 1SG positions which usually went to the weapons guys. Again they would either make the 9 list or retire as a 1SG.

Now with the 18 series 1SG positions are still limited counting the number of regular E8 positions out there. I'd say being a 1SG helps with selection to SGM. So once again a retired Special Forces 1st Sgt is rare.

Just my opinion of course.

[SF-TX]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

I'd be careful using that word as well.

When broken down ... Per - Son ... it has the root word ... son ... which we all know, denotes a male of parental lineage, which will undoubtedly upset someone, some day ... if they're not already.

As to note, you must also be careful in using the word Human ... It too has that word in it ... Man.

Womyn, persyn, humyn...

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by SF-TX

Womyn, persyn, humyn...

It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words ... It's DOUBLEPLUSGOOD !!!!

[82ndAA]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

I would not get my panties all wadded up over this information, consider the source, The Oathkeepers. They have been caught with complete "Green Beret" frauds in their association. I place as much value on this crap as I do with alex jones and paul watson.

Thanks! This is the only place I trust for that kind of information.

Originally Posted by Pete

A retired Special Forces 1st Sgt is very rare. Even rarer these days.

Prior to the 18 series a Medic, Commo Man or Engineer would make the 8 list - but in their career field. They would disappear off to the conventional Army and usually be placed in a 1SG position. After a few years they would retire or make the 9 list and maybe come back to SF. So if they retired as an E8 they would be able to call themselves a retired Special Forces 1SG.

There were a few SF 1SG positions which usually went to the weapons guys. Again they would either make the 9 list or retire as a 1SG.

Now with the 18 series 1SG positions are still limited counting the number of regular E8 positions out there. I'd say being a 1SG helps with selection to SGM. So once again a retired Special Forces 1st Sgt is rare.

Just my opinion of course.

Thanks for taking the time to post that info!

[Pericles]

Originally Posted by pcfixer

I think so to.

Article I Section VIII Clause XVIII of the U.S. Constitution limits the Federal Government obtaining land only by sale per approval of a State Legislature and the use of that land is limited only for Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock yards and other needful buildings. The Federal Government did not purchase this land from the State of Oregon and a building for a wildlife refuge is clearly not a needful building since it does not pertain to any of the enumerated powers delegated to the Federal Government. The People are therefore not trespassing on Federal Land. They are occupying their land and supporting the U.S. Constitution per Article VI Clause III. It is the Federal Government who is committing a crime.

The 1845 SCOTUS agrees with you https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../212/case.html

[Roguish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

Wow.

I stand corrected. Thank you for calling me out on this one. The correct term should be "Person-the-fuck-up".

I apologize to all of my associate board members for the slip. (notice that I did NOT use the phrase FELLOW board members)

"Man"-the-fuck up is unfortunately a term stuck in my vocabulary from decades of time spent in a patriarchal, male-dominated, insensitive, cis-gendered, and elitist force.

Please forgive me. I cherish your friendship and as punishment I will go to the PX and allow at least ten Soldiers to witness me reading the current copy of Cosmopolitan magazine at the news-stand.

Again, thank you for what is a well deserved internet shaming for using the "m-word"...

Respectfully submitted,
BL

LMAO! You crack me up, I can't wait to buy you drinks one of these days.

[Paslode]

The latest news on Ammon and Pals.

Friday, January 8, 2016

Around the web on Oregon, including "personnel is policy" on the fruits, nuts, stolen valors, drunks and thieves in the Bundy coterie.

LA Times: "After Ruby Ridge and Waco, authorities keep a low profile in Oregon."

"George Patton asks: "Does The Oregon Occupation Further the Cause of Liberty."

Pencil-necked collectivist propaganda artist David Neiwert writes for the Southern Preposterous Lie Center: "Infighting Over Oregon Militia Takeover Reveals Deep Divisions Among ‘Patriots’"

Rolling Stone chimes in -- "Meet the Militia: The Zealots, Cowboys and 'Rogue Infidels' of the Oregon Insurgency."

Stewart Rhodes offers: "A Recommended Honorable Exit Strategy For Ammon Bundy."

And from the "personnel is policy" files: Stolen Valor: Men In Oregon ‘Militia’ Caught Red-Handed Falsely Posing As Marine Veterans.

"Morale at Oregon Standoff Collapses After Militia Member Goes AWOL, Drinks Away Donation Money."

A Pravda-on-the-Potomac bio of John "Don't cry for me Argentina" Ritzheimer: "The ‘unhinged’ Oregon protester that the FBI has been tracking for months."

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogsp...including.html

[MR2]

Heavily Armed Oregon Patriots Lied about Actual Military Combat Service

Excellent article by Nate Thayer exposing several mutt posers already well known here. Excellent resource.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by MR2

Heavily Armed Oregon Patriots Lied about Actual Military Combat Service

Excellent article by Nate Thayer exposing several mutt posers already well known here. Excellent resource.

Thanks for that.

[Flagg]

Originally Posted by MR2

Heavily Armed Oregon Patriots Lied about Actual Military Combat Service

Excellent article by Nate Thayer exposing several mutt posers already well known here. Excellent resource.

That's the biggest poser infestation cluster I've ever seen documented.

Not a good look.

[Box]

...sweet
Now that they have been discredited, the government can get them out of the news and deal them the right way

People like this should be disappeared.

[Sdiver]

Those sneaky FBI guys ...

Oregon Fire Chief Catches FBI Agents Posing as Militia – Quits His Job in Protest

This week, Harney County Fire Marshall Chris Briels resigned after discovering undercover FBI agents posing as militia members near the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which has been the site of a standoff for weeks now. According to Briels, he found FBI agents who were impersonating militia members lurking around the town’s armory. When he inquired about the undercover operation with county Judge Steve Grasty he was told to back off.

Just before this discovery was made, there were reports of people who looked like militia harassing locals, which is uncharacteristic of the protesters who initially assembled at the refuge. It turns out that these militia members suspected of harassing locals were actually undercover FBI agents.

During an impromtu press conference, Briels explained how he was so disrespected in his encounter with Grasty and was so disgusted with the situation in general, that he no longer wants to work for a government that he does not believe in. Briels added that he would still be helping people in the community with fire prevention and other issues that he has helped with in the past, but he will just no longer be doing it as a government employee. Briels went on to describe how he exposed undercover FBI agents who had come to town and were creating problems amongst the locals.

When announcing his resignation, Briels described his encounter with the judge.

“I’ve been told by Steve to distance myself from this committee of public safety. I’ve been told that we don’t know what we’re doing. I’ve been told that my life is in danger. I’ve been told all kinds of things. I will not be told what to do. I have my own mind, and I will use my own mind, not somebody else’s,” Briels said.

Many activists and militia members are now suspecting that the undercover agents were planning to act as agent provocateurs and create trouble in order to frame the protesters for things that they did not do. This theory is supported by the fact these undercover agents were reportedly bothering locals and acting in a threatening manner.

However, mainstream media has reported that militia members were harassing locals, but now that version of events is being brought into question considering the fact that undercover agents were posing as militia. The looming threat of agent provocateurs may be one of the reasons why the refuge occupiers are turning away help from outside militias who have attempted to join the occupation.

As the situation at the refuge becomes increasingly volatile, leaders of the occupation have announced that they will soon be making plans to disperse, but they have not yet said when this will happen. Meanwhile, the FBI has said that they will be filing federal charges against the militia members that they have found evidence on throughout the occupation.

Link with video of press conference ---> http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ore...posing-militia