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Old 12-07-2014, 16:13   #16
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Re: German Polizei

German police, on average, are nowhere near as aggressive as American police. There is a variety of explanations for this.

That being said, physically resisting a police officer is always a bad idea, no matter what country you live in.
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Old 12-07-2014, 20:00   #17
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If I were that officer, I would have let the subject rant and vent and I would have given him instructions on how to properly get down. I would also explain, if he didn't comply, I would employ either pepper spray or a taser.

That subject was too big and the officer was too small to attempt a physical take down.

Just my $0.02
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:18   #18
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...But the argument is, that this aggressive policing strategy is almost impossible to execute, without a significant increase in minor abuse against the non-criminal public.
How would the non-criminal (is this newspeak for "law abiding"?) public suffer increased minor abuse?
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:15   #19
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How would the non-criminal (is this newspeak for "law abiding"?) public suffer increased minor abuse?
So you're law abiding? You comply with all of the 4500 Federal laws and estimated 14K regulations that carry criminal penalties? All the municipal, county, township and state laws in your locale? You've never rolled through a stop sign? "Non-criminal" was pretty understandable to me--but nice snark bro.

How about repeated stop-and-frisk? Or "you meet the perp description of a 16-35 yo black male wearing a hat who was tagging streetlamp poles."

That's how.

People have a lot of stats on zero-tolerance crime reduction but I haven't seen much research on the collateral damage. But maybe I'm biased by having a red/brown son who is "law abiding" but still gets pulled over for driving while brown.
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