02-08-2013, 06:33
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I like how the pictures of this guy that LAPD released were not of him in his LAPD uniform, instead it was his former Navy uniform.
This morning I saw some new pictures being circulated of him in non-military uniforms, but not his LAPD uniform.
Anyone else think this was a deliberate action by those in law enforcment?
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02-08-2013, 10:06
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Originally Posted by Ape Man
I don't have any sympathy whatsoever for this guy. But I am starting think that LAPD deserves its bad reputation.
Two separate pickup trucks shot up because the cops thought they belong to the perp? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...omen-shot.html
"Chase said that in both instances police came across vehicles they thought were similar to the one Dorner is believed to be driving. Neither vehicle was Dorner's.
"Now it appears neither of them are directly related," Chase said. "In both of them, officers believed they were at the time." "
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Both of those involved Torrance PD, not LAPD.
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02-08-2013, 10:24
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Originally Posted by 69harley
I like how the pictures of this guy that LAPD released were not of him in his LAPD uniform, instead it was his former Navy uniform.
This morning I saw some new pictures being circulated of him in non-military uniforms, but not his LAPD uniform.
Anyone else think this was a deliberate action by those in law enforcment?
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Ah - nothing like a little conspiracy to go along with the morning coffee.
This is what I've seen on the news around here in NorCal.
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02-08-2013, 10:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69harley
I like how the pictures of this guy that LAPD released were not of him in his LAPD uniform, instead it was his former Navy uniform.
This morning I saw some new pictures being circulated of him in non-military uniforms, but not his LAPD uniform.
Anyone else think this was a deliberate action by those in law enforcment?
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Must be a SEAL, isn't everyone that is in the Navy a SEAL? Maybe he was SEAL TEAM Six and the Govt is trying to kill him because he knows too much.
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02-08-2013, 10:44
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Must be the country boy in me
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Originally Posted by PSM
Both of those involved Torrance PD, not LAPD.
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I stand corrected.
I get yelled at all the time by people from Long Island and Norther New Jersey because I keep saying they are from the City. To this dumb country boy, if you all come from the same big urban blob and you all talk and act the same, why should I make a distinction?
But when it comes to placing blame for mishandling firearms I should be more careful.
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02-08-2013, 10:50
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Originally Posted by Ape Man
I stand corrected.
I get yelled at all the time by people from Long Island and Norther New Jersey because I keep saying they are from the City. To this dumb country boy, if you all come from the same big urban blob and you all talk and act the same, why should I make a distinction?
But when it comes to placing blame for mishandling firearms I should be more careful.
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I also stand corrected. I received a PM from a SOCAL resident informing me that LAPD was also involved in one in that area.
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02-08-2013, 10:57
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I also stand corrected. I received a PM from a SOCAL resident informing me that LAPD was also involved in one in that area.
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So now there are 3 shootings in the area? Can you post a link to the other?
Thank you,
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02-08-2013, 11:01
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So now there are 3 shootings in the area? Can you post a link to the other?
Thank you,
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No, but perhaps Susa can.
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02-08-2013, 11:10
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Two shootings involving mistaken identity. LAPD detectives shot at the newspaper delivery women, then while responding to that shooting, Torrance PD shot at another vehicle.
http://ktla.com/2013/02/08/women-del...nt-for-ex-cop/
Prior to these shootings, two LAPD officers were shot at by suspect in Corona, and shortly thereafter, the creep shot and killed the Riverside PD deputy.
So far they have been unable to locate him in the mountains, or elsewhere.
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So now there are 3 shootings in the area? Can you post a link to the other?
Thank you,
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02-08-2013, 11:15
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Not that it matters much, but according to this LA Times article from this morning ( [URL="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-authorities-gear-up-for-continued-search-in-big-bear.html"LINK[/URL]), it was the LAPD that shot to the two women and Torrance PD were the shooters in the 2nd incident.
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About 5:20 a.m. in Torrance, two women were delivering the Los Angeles Times from their blue pickup when LAPD officers spotted the truck.
The police apparently mistook the truck for Dorner's and riddled it with bullets. The women, a mother-and-daughter team, were rushed to a hospital.
The mother, who is in her 70s, was shot in the shoulder. She was listed in stable condition. Her daughter was injured by shattered glass.
About 25 minutes after that shooting, Torrance police opened fire after spotting another truck similar to Dorner's at Flagler Lane and Beryl Street. No one was reported hurt.
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02-08-2013, 11:58
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Originally Posted by 69harley
I like how the pictures of this guy that LAPD released were not of him in his LAPD uniform, instead it was his former Navy uniform.
This morning I saw some new pictures being circulated of him in non-military uniforms, but not his LAPD uniform.
Anyone else think this was a deliberate action by those in law enforcment?
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LOL, and put the LAPD in a bad light?
Of course you're not going to see pictures of him in a LAPD uniform. They don't pay their public affairs officer $110,000 a year for nothing.......
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02-08-2013, 12:55
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How you know you will get shot at by the police.
1. If you are black
2. You drive a Nissan Titan
3. If you drive with your lights off
4. If you wear a Navy Uniform.
5. If you are 6'+ @ 230pounds+ (wont matter the race, they will just shoot in the dark)
TS said it, and believe me, you can smell the fear. As for Arrowhead, its mostly republicans, they all have guns up in their cabins, as for the guys in Big Bear...mostly snow birds that are in palm springs right now, so a lot of empty cabins.
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02-08-2013, 13:11
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LOL, and put the LAPD in a bad light?
Of course you're not going to see pictures of him in a LAPD uniform. They don't pay their public affairs officer $110,000 a year for nothing....... 
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A black cop who loves Piers Morgan and hates Wayne LaPierre doesn't fit in with the media's religious right-winger target data. Now, if you put him in a a military uniform...
Wait a minute, let me take off my tinfoil cap...
Hey! Still seems like the press is dressing up the reporting.
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02-08-2013, 22:20
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Trying to clear up just a bit of this: LAPD shot up the truck with the old ladies in it in Torrance. While coming to their aid, Torrance PD shot up another truck leaving the area, also not the suspect. LAPD was engaged by the suspect in Corona while he was attempting to roll up on an intended victim. One officer was grazed in the head and their vehicle was disabled. Sometime after this last shooting, the suspect fired on RPD, killing an officer, apparently because they were there. This appears to all be after the suspect killed two civilians in Irvine.
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02-09-2013, 07:25
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.... and I stayed awake during the demo classes (partly motivated by the seven 'beanies' that were blown up on the course about a month prior to my arrival at SFOC in 1970 .....
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I was right there when this happened and tried to tend to my wounded Brothers. These were Brothers not "beanies" and to refer to them as such dishonors their memory.
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