02-07-2013, 18:55
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Originally Posted by afchic
I read he was a Navy LT.
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Correct. An O-3.
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02-07-2013, 19:28
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Maybe they should deploy the DHS since they have more ammo than the total it took to fight OIF.
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02-07-2013, 19:30
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just what in the blue bloody fuck LA?
Read his manifesto. Seems like there's some shit that LAPD needs to fix but they definitely missed out on him snapping like a twig.
I'd rather him get taken out than sit in prison soaking up more tax dollars and becoming some sort of prison celebrity. A cop killer will be hailed as hero in prison, even if its a former cop.
Better be on guard tonight LA, or rather, be extra vigilant.
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02-07-2013, 19:37
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There's a whole bunch of San Bernardino residents that believe in the 2A tonight!
Bet some of them go buy Cali legal ARs tomorrow (or as soon as the police move on and let them out of their houses.)
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02-07-2013, 19:39
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
There's a whole bunch of San Bernardino residents that believe in the 2A tonight!
Bet some of them go buy Cali legal ARs tomorrow (or as soon as the police move on and let them out of their houses.)
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If his war is with the LAPD, he won't find them at Big Bear, unless they are skiing.
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02-07-2013, 19:43
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Just watched the presser with the sheriff...we found his truck, cops going door to door, dogs, following snowy foot prints....see something say something! Now they want drones!
Press galore with lots of questions...here, here call on me!!!
A note on the media...pictures of the perp in his Navy uniform, none in his police uniform. All the pics of the cops responding to this issue...they have EBWs in their hands.
More bread and circuses????
Now how do you spell Benghazi again?
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02-07-2013, 19:52
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Originally Posted by PSM
If his war is with the LAPD, he won't find them at Big Bear, unless they are skiing.
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Well, so far he has not engaged LAPD. Just the (unarmed) daughter of a LAPD Captain.
His others were ambushes of Corona and Riverside PD in their cars.
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02-07-2013, 21:31
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
Well, so far he has not engaged LAPD...
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Probably remembered the "rockets" LAPD had on hand from their buy-back program
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02-07-2013, 21:33
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
Well, so far he has not engaged LAPD. Just the (unarmed) daughter of a LAPD Captain.
His others were ambushes of Corona and Riverside PD in their cars.
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I hate it when a guy doesn't live up to his manifesto.
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02-07-2013, 21:37
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I hate it when a guy doesn't live up to his manifesto.
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Classic!
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02-07-2013, 23:46
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Wrong branch of service .....
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
I smell fear.... a whole lot of innocent people are going to get hurt when cops are this afraid. Hey LEO's the guy was an officer in the Army, they do not attend all the "killing" schools the NCO's do. Just an FYI. This guy is not Rambo, just a insane former cop.
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Sorry, to disagree, he was NAVY, not Army (thank the Lord). As to the officer not attending all the "killing" schools ... I'm not sure that's true in every case .... I was king of the pit in my ranger class (72-5) and that was before I spent 25 years studying/practicing Isshin Ryu karate .... and I stayed awake during the demo classes (partly motivated by the seven 'beanies' that were blown up on the course about a month prior to my arrival at SFOC in 1970 ... and I when I graduated from the FBI Hazardous Devices Course at Redstone I parlayed my demo skills with my EOD/BDU talent to build some pretty impressive IEDs for training for our Bomb DIsposal Unit. So, I think what I'm saying is, don't underestimate the lethality of this nut case ... I've pyschologically profiled people like him when I was at the FBI academy and the hostility he's evincing is based on his situational awareness of the threats he thinks he's facing ... we (law enforcement) have to get inside that mental cycle to defeat him.
I see that happening in two ways: first, we have to realize that he's dealing with frustrations that go back a long ways (indicated by the narrative in his 'manifesto') ... back to his early childhood ... so we have to be aware of the triggers that set him off and use those to advantage. Secondly, he let the boat owner live, so contrary to what some may think he's not killing indiscriminately ... that may be a way to infiltrate to close proximity if the operators can pose as civilians 'in the area.' As a retired law enforcement officer, while I regret the loss of life, I think in terms of apprehension, and I think that there is a small chance that can still happen (Part of me thinks that there may be some validity to his claim that he told the truth and that the episode of officer misconduct he reported did indeed happen -- it doesn't excuse his conduct, but I don't think anything else would/could spark such criminal activity other than sheer madness, and that is not in evidence here (See Kiritsis/Hall kidnap/criminal confinement episode in 1978 for similar modus operandi and motive).)
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02-08-2013, 01:01
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02-08-2013, 01:02
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What is the LAPD doing?
I don't have any sympathy whatsoever for this guy. But I am starting think that LAPD deserves its bad reputation.
Two separate pickup trucks shot up because the cops thought they belong to the perp? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...omen-shot.html
"Chase said that in both instances police came across vehicles they thought were similar to the one Dorner is believed to be driving. Neither vehicle was Dorner's.
"Now it appears neither of them are directly related," Chase said. "In both of them, officers believed they were at the time." "
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02-08-2013, 01:09
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I don't have any sympathy whatsoever for this guy. But I am starting think that LAPD deserves its bad reputation.
Two separate pickup trucks shot up because the cops thought they belong to the perp? http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...omen-shot.html
"Chase said that in both instances police came across vehicles they thought were similar to the one Dorner is believed to be driving. Neither vehicle was Dorner's.
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You've hit it on the head; they should only be using deadly force when they can identify a threat and that's the only means of neutralizing it ... otherwise there's gonna be a lot of shot up vehicles and individuals who look like the perp ... LL Cool J for instance, who from what I've heard is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet .....
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02-08-2013, 03:43
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The whole crazy manifesto...
http://www.crimefilenews.com/2013/02...lover-and.html
now why would the MSM leave out major portions of this???
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