NRA Warns Obama Packing Supreme Court

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Paslode

A second term of the O....I have been wondering what would it mean for Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.'s Freedom Group.




That is quite a few eggs in one basket.

Well, basically a second term will mean loddy doddy everybody's permanently screwed, so...

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Well, basically a second term will mean loddy doddy everybody's permanently screwed, so...

You never know, Chuck Heston may rise again.


But saying your right, we might look at the recent goings ons in the State of Illinois for what the future could bring.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Paslode

But saying your right, we might look at the recent goings ons in the State of Illinois for what the future could bring.

$65 per handgun...$25 per renewal.

That is BS.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by tonyz

$65 per handgun...$25 per renewal.

That is BS.

And likely just the beginning for the residents of Illinois.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Paslode

And likely just the beginning for the residents of Illinois.

Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR

TR

What I think is that people will keep guns illegally (according to the Gov. at that time)and that will be when the 2nd Amendment will be amended and we will be in the same situation as England............

Big Teddy

[tonyz]

The left...making criminals of each and every one of us...it is all about control.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

TR

What I think is that people will keep guns illegally (according to the Gov. at that time)and that will be when the 2nd Amendment will be amended and we will be in the same situation as England............

Big Teddy

You can have all of the guns you want, but if you cannot buy ammo for them or shoot them anywhere legally, there is not much incentive to own them.

The way you boil a frog is by slowly raising the temperature.

If the first thing Obama did when he was elected was to slap a $2 per gallon tax on gas and raise it to $3.75 a gallon, he would have been impeached. Now, $3 per gallon looks like a great new normal price. Re-elect him and see how high it can go in five more years.

Same deal with guns and ammo. How do ammo prices compare with the rate of inflation?

TR

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR

Agreed.

And another potential caveat to this, is that other cash strapped states will see this as a new avenue to collect revenue and some will follow the lead of Illinois. Then municipalities will decide you need to register your guns like your pets and dictate how many can you have.

You might even be required to attend a yearly continued education classes and carry a certain amount of liability insurance to maintain your local permit.....like they do with Contractor Licenses.


And all along the way politicians, insurance companies, etc., etc. are going to 'go along' for the ride because it creates jobs and some can make a buck off it.

[mojaveman]

Nothing lights my fuze better than anti Second Amendment issues.

All firearm owners continue to donate to the NRA and continue to stockpile ammo.

[BOfH]

The NRA has been sounding the alarm on this for some time now(I get their email messages). Speaking of IL, NYC is a fine example of using gun registration to do away with the 2nd: $434.25 for a handgun, $234.25 for a long gun[1]; NYSRPA and the SAF currently have a suit pending with regards to the costs [2][3]. On the topic, an interesting article on the cost benefits of a gun registry, specifically long guns[4][5], there are none. Hell, if our friends north of the border get it, and we don't, then the proverbial crap has indeed hit the national ventilation unit and has spewed far and wide.



[1] http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...sing_faq.shtml
[2] http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=351
[3] http://ia700608.us.archive.org/24/it...35.docket.html
[4] http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankmin...-gun-registry/
[5] http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...john-r-lott-jr

Originally Posted by Dusty

Well, basically a second term will mean loddy doddy everybody's permanently screwed, so...

Screwed way more than we have been already? Great. I bet it comes with free condoms.

[koz]

So to me this means even if the Republican candidate isn't the one I originally wanted, I will vote for him because even a Northeastern moderate or PA religious nerd or a womanizer is better than Barry O.

Please don't sit this election out....

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by koz

So to me this means even if the Republican candidate isn't the one I originally wanted, I will vote for him because even a Northeastern moderate or PA religious nerd or a womanizer is better than Barry O.

Please don't sit this election out....

I wish it were that cut and dried. Ron Paul could really gum up the works by running as an independant.

I actually hope Romney worked out a deal to pick Rand as VP.

[Paslode]

Here ya go.....

A road map of Obama's Second term via his buddy Hugo Chavez

Venezuela Suspends Gun Imports for a Year

CARACAS – Venezuelan authorities have established a moratorium on importing guns for sale to the general public, while banning the marketing of munitions and all other armaments in an attempt to “put order” in that sector and exercise some control over the nation’s widespread violence.

The technical secretary of the Presidential Commission for the Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament, Pablo Fernandez, said Friday in an interview on state channel VTV that since Feb. 29 “the importing of weapons to Venezuela has been suspended.”

Exempt from the restriction are state security agencies, the armed forces and duly registered security firms.

Fernandez said the measure will allow greater protection for the safety of private citizens, which, he said, “has been degenerating into a state of chaos.”

The suspension of imports is accompanied by other measures, such as “a national process for legalizing the possession of arms,” which will take three months and will serve to register people “with arms acquired legally but without having their papers in order.”

Also contemplated is a control mechanism for arms and munitions that permits their origin to be tracked.

Interior and Justice Minister Tareck El Aissami later told a press conference that the marketing of arms and munitions is also suspended.

“This is not just about imports but also about local gunsmiths, who will no longer be allowed to sell firearms,” the minister told a press conference, adding that “no one is allowed to sell munitions.”

El Aissami said that also prohibited as a consequence of the ban on selling new weapons is the issuing of new licenses to bear arms.

Venezuela has one of the highest murder rates in the region, with 48 homicides for every 100,000 inhabitants annually.

According to government figures, a firearm is involved in 98 percent of homicides in the South American country, and 63 percent of the murder victims were hit with more than five bullets.

http://laht.com/article.asp?Category...ticleId=474839