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Dusty 03-07-2012 15:05

NRA Warns Obama Packing Supreme Court
 
Well, duh.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politi...e-court/347556

The National Rifle Association is already jumping into the 2012 election, warning that a Democratic Senate and reelected president could get a shot at changing the political makeup of the Supreme Court and raining a hail of gun fire on the Second Amendment.

“We can’t afford a strategy of praying for the health of five Supreme Court justices,” said Chris Cox, director of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, in a reference to the one-vote GOP majority on the court of nine aging justices.

Cox said the NRA isn’t waiting for the presidential election to get involved, turning to key Senate races to endorse pro-gun candidates even in primaries. Wednesday, for example, the powerful lobby backed Indiana Treasurer Richard Mourdock over Sen. Dick Lugar in the GOP primary. “The Supreme Court is certainly running in every Senate race in the country,” he told Secrets.

Cox said that his political shop will be helping to arm the public with the administration’s targeting of the Second Amendment and Constitution in what could end up being a historic campaign for the NRA.

Besides warning about how Obama could get another court pick--his third--if one of the older Republicans retired or dies, the NRA plans to remind voters of the Justice Department’s ill-fated “fast and furious” gun running program and other gun issues.

What’s more, his NRA-ILA is drawing attention to how some liberal court justices have been questioning the Constitution. On the group’s website, for example, the NRA is drawing attention to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg comments in a recent New York Times story that she wouldn’t look to the U.S. Constitution if drafting a new constitution and instead would look to the South African Constitution or Canadian Charter of Rights.

“None of this should come as a surprise. One wonders, for example, if Justice Ginsburg even looks to the United States Constitution when interpreting it in 2012,” said the NRA.

Badger52 03-07-2012 15:19

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 438603)
Well, duh.

“None of this should come as a surprise. One wonders, for example, if Justice Ginsburg even looks to the United States Constitution when interpreting it in 2012,” said the NRA.

Your highlight is perfectly appropriate; the answer is she doesn't. Her kind are "up there" thinking lofty thoughts about how to manipulate it so that they go to sleep thinking what a contribution they made, instead of reading the words that were written. It is the worst form of FTFSI, 'cause the Constitution isn't really all that difficult to understand.

Paslode 03-07-2012 15:28

A second term of the O....I have been wondering what would it mean for Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.'s Freedom Group.

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Firearms — Acquired Bushmaster Firearms, Inc., from Windham, Maine native Dick Dyke for an undisclosed sum in April 2006, and purchased Remington Arms in April 2007. Under Cerberus direction, Bushmaster Firearms acquired Cobb Manufacturing, a well-respected manufacturer of large-caliber tactical rifles in August 2007. Cerberus also acquired DPMS Panther Arms December 14, 2007.[29][30] Remington Arms acquired Marlin Firearms in January 2008.[31][32] In October 2009, Remington Military products acquired silencer manufacturer Advanced Armament Corporation.[33] These companies were combined into the Freedom Group

That is quite a few eggs in one basket.

Dusty 03-07-2012 15:31

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 438610)
A second term of the O....I have been wondering what would it mean for Cerberus Capital Management, L.P.'s Freedom Group.




That is quite a few eggs in one basket.

Well, basically a second term will mean loddy doddy everybody's permanently screwed, so...

Paslode 03-07-2012 15:47

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 438612)
Well, basically a second term will mean loddy doddy everybody's permanently screwed, so...

You never know, Chuck Heston may rise again.


But saying your right, we might look at the recent goings ons in the State of Illinois for what the future could bring.

tonyz 03-07-2012 17:05

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 438613)

But saying your right, we might look at the recent goings ons in the State of Illinois for what the future could bring.

$65 per handgun...$25 per renewal.

That is BS.

Paslode 03-07-2012 17:09

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Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 438623)
$65 per handgun...$25 per renewal.

That is BS.


And likely just the beginning for the residents of Illinois.

The Reaper 03-07-2012 20:46

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 438625)
And likely just the beginning for the residents of Illinois.

Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR

greenberetTFS 03-07-2012 21:15

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 438684)
Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR

TR

What I think is that people will keep guns illegally (according to the Gov. at that time)and that will be when the 2nd Amendment will be amended and we will be in the same situation as England............:(

Big Teddy :munchin

tonyz 03-07-2012 21:23

The left...making criminals of each and every one of us...it is all about control.

The Reaper 03-07-2012 21:24

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Originally Posted by greenberetTFS (Post 438693)
TR

What I think is that people will keep guns illegally (according to the Gov. at that time)and that will be when the 2nd Amendment will be amended and we will be in the same situation as England............:(

Big Teddy :munchin

You can have all of the guns you want, but if you cannot buy ammo for them or shoot them anywhere legally, there is not much incentive to own them.

The way you boil a frog is by slowly raising the temperature.

If the first thing Obama did when he was elected was to slap a $2 per gallon tax on gas and raise it to $3.75 a gallon, he would have been impeached. Now, $3 per gallon looks like a great new normal price. Re-elect him and see how high it can go in five more years.

Same deal with guns and ammo. How do ammo prices compare with the rate of inflation?

TR

Paslode 03-07-2012 21:56

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 438684)
Exactly.

In five years, double them, and in five more, double THAT.

Tax ammo at a penny a round, at first. Then raise it to a dollar per round.

Gotta have safe storage. More than two guns requires a "collector's" license. That could start at $100/year, but then raise it to $1,000 per year.

Registration is free, at first. Then $50 for a license and $10 per gun (just to pay for the administrative costs, of course). Raise it to $500 per year, and $100 per gun, over time.

$100 per year range tax. For lead abatement and clean-up. Then $1,000. Then $10,000. Then where do you go to shoot, and why are all the ranges closed?

Watch the guns go away. One at the time, bit by bit.

TR


Agreed.

And another potential caveat to this, is that other cash strapped states will see this as a new avenue to collect revenue and some will follow the lead of Illinois. Then municipalities will decide you need to register your guns like your pets and dictate how many can you have.

You might even be required to attend a yearly continued education classes and carry a certain amount of liability insurance to maintain your local permit.....like they do with Contractor Licenses.


And all along the way politicians, insurance companies, etc., etc. are going to 'go along' for the ride because it creates jobs and some can make a buck off it.

mojaveman 03-07-2012 22:54

Nothing lights my fuze better than anti Second Amendment issues.

All firearm owners continue to donate to the NRA and continue to stockpile ammo.

BOfH 03-07-2012 23:05

The NRA has been sounding the alarm on this for some time now(I get their email messages). Speaking of IL, NYC is a fine example of using gun registration to do away with the 2nd: $434.25 for a handgun, $234.25 for a long gun[1]; NYSRPA and the SAF currently have a suit pending with regards to the costs [2][3]. On the topic, an interesting article on the cost benefits of a gun registry, specifically long guns[4][5], there are none. Hell, if our friends north of the border get it, and we don't, then the proverbial crap has indeed hit the national ventilation unit and has spewed far and wide.



[1] http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pe...sing_faq.shtml
[2] http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=351
[3] http://ia700608.us.archive.org/24/it...35.docket.html
[4] http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankmin...-gun-registry/
[5] http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...john-r-lott-jr


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