Dalton Fury aka Thomas Greer

Aequitas · 07-12-2008, 03:18

If I didn't sign a NDA then what the F@CK did i sign three different times through the Q course and at Group?

**Team Sergeant** · 07-12-2008, 09:55

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Originally Posted by Aequitas

If I didn't sign a NDA then what the F@CK did i sign three different times through the Q course and at Group?

And you can bet Ranger greer and Ranger haney signed many more NDA's than you.

Guy · 07-12-2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Aequitas

If I didn't sign a NDA then what the F@CK did i sign three different times through the Q course and at Group?

I'm still signing them (NDA) and I'm not even in SF anymore.

Stay safe.

**The Reaper** · 07-12-2008, 12:15

Saying that a HQs has not commented on your script, is not the same as them saying that your entire book is a violation of the NDA you signed and is therefore disapproved.

I really doubt that they have just sat on the script for the entire time MAJ Greer states without telling him anything.

The NDAs I signed forbid me from ever writing for profit about anything I witnessed in the Army. What did Greer's say?

The fact that Beckwith did it, and others over the years does not make it right to write another one, especially about operations which are still ongoing.

I am pretty sure that he is PNG at the Unit.

I wonder what the real story with this is, and I don't mean the one in the book.

TR

JAGO · 07-30-2009, 06:59

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

.... Beckwith did it ....

TR

TR, an historical note. I travelled to Tampa after Rogue Warrior came out and during our discussion of COAs I raised that point. I was corrected. The Colonel required everybody there to sign an NDA but none was ever found on file for him.
v/r
phil

**The Reaper** · 07-30-2009, 08:17

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Originally Posted by JAGO

TR, an historical note. I travelled to Tampa after Rogue Warrior came out and during our discussion of COAs I raised that point. I was corrected. The Colonel required everybody there to sign an NDA but none was ever found on file for him.
v/r
phil

Phil:

Well, that makes it okay, doesn't it.

As a soldier, that would really bother me. Leadership by example.

TR

JAGO · 07-30-2009, 09:12

TR,
No Sir, it doesn't and IMO 18 USC 798 (and 793) is still applicable.
I am sorry if my noting a bit of history caused offense. No offense was intended.
As all who have (read) and signed the NDAs know they serve as a requirement to get cleared and to allow civil recovery of the profits . It is hoped that by taking away the ill gotten gains, they remove the incentive to publish that which shouldn;t. Sadly, neither the criminal nor the civil remedies are pursued not because of DoD, but because US DoJ is in charge of litigation.
IMHO all are correct to be concerned about the potential harm to our brothers when this stuff gets out in the public domain.
My reference to the lack of an NDA w/ the deceased Colonel was in fact, recognized as an existing fault in the system and that fault was then corrected.
Again, my remark was not intended to slight any portion of this valuable discussion and to you I say 'I am sorry". I remain,
v/r
phil

**The Reaper** · 07-30-2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by JAGO

TR,
No Sir, it doesn't and IMO 18 USC 798 (and 793) is still applicable.
I am sorry if my noting a bit of history caused offense. No offense was intended.
As all who have (read) and signed the NDAs know they serve as a requirement to get cleared and to allow civil recovery of the profits . It is hoped that by taking away the ill gotten gains, they remove the incentive to publish that which shouldn;t. Sadly, neither the criminal nor the civil remedies are pursued not because of DoD, but because US DoJ is in charge of litigation.
IMHO all are correct to be concerned about the potential harm to our brothers when this stuff gets out in the public domain.
My reference to the lack of an NDA w/ the deceased Colonel was in fact, recognized as an existing fault in the system and that fault was then corrected.
Again, my remark was not intended to slight any portion of this valuable discussion and to you I say 'I am sorry". I remain,
v/r
phil

Phil:

My apologies to you, we are talking past one another, which is one of the issues with the internet.

I understood your point, and was commenting on a commander requiring his subordinates to comply with a policy which he appears to have ignored.

No need to apologize, no harm, no foul.

TR

Christophe · 08-05-2008, 12:14

Seems like a lot of former Unit members started writing books??

-The Mission,The Men and Me: by Pete Blaber.
-Never Surrender: William Boykin.
-Leadership and Training For The Fight: Paul Howe.
-Green Eyes, Black Rifles: Kyle Lamb.

I suppose most of these books are about leadership skills and weapon handling. Still, all these authors outed themselves as being former Unit members.
If all of them are png I suppose Unit reunions must be a dull affaire.

Surgicalcric · 08-05-2008, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Christophe

...I suppose most of these books are about leadership skills and weapon handling. Still, all these authors outed themselves as being former Unit members.
If all of them are png I suppose Unit reunions must be a dull affair.

I suppose you should stop guessing and start reading.

Outing oneself is not the grounds for being PNG; talking about things that are covered in the NDA's is.

Crip

Christophe · 08-05-2008, 13:32

Crip,

Message understood Sir.

Regards,

Chris.

**Team Sergeant** · 08-05-2008, 16:08

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Originally Posted by Christophe

Seems like a lot of former Unit members started writing books??

-The Mission,The Men and Me: by Pete Blaber.
-Never Surrender: William Boykin.
-Leadership and Training For The Fight: Paul Howe.
-Green Eyes, Black Rifles: Kyle Lamb.

I suppose most of these books are about leadership skills and weapon handling. Still, all these authors outed themselves as being former Unit members.
If all of them are png I suppose Unit reunions must be a dull affaire.

And some have been OK'ed by the US Army..... big friggin difference don't you think?

And I would suppose that's something you will NEVER know.

Step lightly.

Team Sergeant

Dad · 08-05-2008, 18:06

Would the QP's recommend the book by Blaber? He was a subject in another book I read and he seemed very impressive
Dad

Christophe · 08-06-2008, 06:16

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

And some have been OK'ed by the US Army..... big friggin difference don't you think?

And I would suppose that's something you will NEVER know.

Step lightly.

Team Sergeant

Sir,

Understood.

I appologise.

From now on I will read more and post less.

Respectfully,

Chris.

**Team Sergeant** · 10-03-2008, 07:51

HOW TO CASH IN AFTER YOUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS CAREER BY THOMAS GREER, US ARMY RANGER AKA DALTON FURY.

Officer: Best Plan To Kill Osama Was Nixed
Wants To Set The Record Straight On The 2001 Hunt For Bin Laden At Tora Bora
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Oct. 2, 2008

(CBS) The man who led the Pentagon's mission to kill Osama bin Laden says the Afghan allies he was forced to use may have undermined his operation. He also tells correspondent Scott Pelley his superiors scuttled the most effective plan of attack against the al Qaeda leader.

The former Delta Force officer, who uses the pseudonym "Dalton Fury," tells his story for the first time on 60 Minutes, this Sunday, Oct. 5, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
Ten weeks after 9/11, Fury and a team of U.S. Army Delta Force soldiers joined CIA operatives and Afghan fighters known as mujahideen under the command of a warlord named General Hazrat Ali, to whom the CIA paid millions in cash. The Americans and Afghans pursued bin Laden and an estimated 1,000 al Qaeda fighters into the Tora Bora Mountains, near the border with Pakistan. The U.S. strategy, says Fury, was to let Afghan allies do most of the fighting, while U.S. Special Operations Forces directed air strikes and provided support.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4494937.shtml