08-11-2012, 14:21
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Hitler wine?? Idiots!
From the "what were they thinking" files:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...offensive.html
Italian supermarket attacked for ‘selling offensive wine bottles with Hitler on the label’By Phil Vinter
A woman whose relatives died in Auschwitz says she was shocked to discover wine bottles featuring images of Hitler in an Italian supermarket.
Cindy Hirsch from Philadelphia, U.S. was holidaying with her husband Michael in Garda, northern Italy, when the couple spotted the wine bottle labels featuring pictures of the former Nazi leader.
One of the bottles being sold in a supermarket near their hotel was called 'Mein Kampf' after the right-wing dictator's famous book, another was called 'Ein volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer' (one people, one empire, one Fuhrer).
Other labels depicted Hitler in different poses including one in which he is shown making the Nazi salute. Another bottle featured an image of Pope John Paul II.
Mrs Hirsch's father was born in Czechoslovakia and is an Auschwitz survivor, however her grandparents, aunt and other relatives died at the concentration camp.
The Italian integration minister Andrea Riccardi said: 'I want to reassure our American friends who visit our country that our Constitution and our culture rejects racism, anti-Semitism and Nazi fascism.
'This offends the memory of millions of people and risks compromising the image of Italy abroad.'
Mr Hirsch said he complained to a shop assistant after noticing the bottles in a supermarket.
He said the worker replied: 'He told me 'It's just history, like Mussolini like Che Guevara.' I put the bottle down on the counter and left the store.'
Prosecutor Mario Giulio Schinaia told news agency ANSA that inquiries were under way.
He said: 'The only crime that could be currently attributable to this is that of apologising for fascism,' prosecutor Mario Giulio Schinaia told Ansa.
'At this point though it would be opportune to invent the crime of human stupidity'.
Italy made the act of apologising for fascism a crime in 1952.
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08-11-2012, 15:12
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I am obviously disgusted by this but they are in another country with another culture which has a different view on facism and Hitler . I don't like it but it apparently isn't against the law in Italy. The Hirsch's should have listened to what the Italian prosecutor said and moved on...
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08-11-2012, 16:29
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More old news making the news.
And so it goes...
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Hitler Wine Review
NapaValleyRegister, 28 Sep 2007
We recently reported on wine that was alleged to have been made for Adolf Hitler, and this drew a response from reader Frank Green of New York City, who “tried this vintage” and sent us a review:
“This wine is very bold, with a very bitter after-taste. Doesn’t sit well with Russian food, completely dominates French cuisine, but can be successfully paired with tortellini and sushi.
“It has a full bodied taste with hints of black currant, leather, gunpowder, steel, burnt wood and brick. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is ‘beware.’ This is not a wine for drinking, this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.
“Ultimately its taste will die in the cellar, although it still may be found in select South American cafes. Palate best cleared with American and U.K. domestic brews.”
(It’s difficult to drink wine when your tongue is in your cheek.)
More on Hitler wine
An Italian prosecutor has seized wine bottle labels with Hitler’s portrait, saying that the labels “constitute a glorification of the perpetrators of crimes against humanity,” according to an item on AFP.
They are part of a historical line of wines produced since 1995 by the Lunardelli winery, which includes labels featuring, among others, Winston Churchill, Karl Marx, Napoleon Bonaparte, Benito Mussolini and Che Guevara. The Web site said the Mussolini labels were not seized.
http://napavalleyregister.com/lifest...267115df8.html
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08-11-2012, 19:35
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So, is this a Rhine, Mosel, or Nahe wine? The bottles were all black, so no hint there. One could make a "case" for hints of grapes from the Volga, Thames; perhaps even the distant aura of the Susquehanna. Would not expect to see any of that declared on the label.
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08-11-2012, 19:51
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09-09-2012, 20:28
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Why stop at a wine when you can create an entire store?
"Hitler" clothing store stirs anger in India
http://news.yahoo.com/hitler-clothin...133743884.html
After originally refusing, it looks like the owner has finally come to his senses.
Hitler Clothing Shop In India Will Be Renamed, Says Owner
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1853868.html
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09-10-2012, 17:12
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Kind of funny because if I got my information correct, Hitler didn't drink alcohol nor did he eat meat. I'm sure the Neo-Nazis in East Germany would love to have a few bottles.
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09-11-2012, 01:42
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Another bottle featured an image of Pope John Paul II.
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I actually purchased a bottle of this while in Rome a few years back. I believe it was about 5€, or about $8 American at the time. Not that a great quality red, but even low-quality wine in Italy was better than most of the stuff I've tried in the states. YMMV
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09-11-2012, 04:28
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Originally Posted by Masochist
...but even low-quality wine in Italy was better than most of the stuff I've tried in the states. YMMV
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