07-01-2009, 08:28
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Bill Allowing Guns in Bars Approved
And now for some good news..... Now I can eat lunch (and dinner) in a lot more places.... TS
Bill Allowing Guns in Bars Approved
Updated: Wednesday, 01 Jul 2009, 7:11 AM MDT
Published : Wednesday, 01 Jul 2009, 7:11 AM MDT
PHOENIX - The Arizona House has approved a bill to allow people with concealed weapons permits to carry a gun into a business that serves alcohol.
The measure has pitted powerful groups representing gun and bar owners against each other.
It would require bar and restaurant owners who want to ban weapons to post a sign next to their liquor license. Drinking while carrying a weapon would be illegal.
Opponents have said that mixing guns and alcohol could cause violence, but supporters argue that people should be able to protect themselves at businesses that serve alcohol.
The House approved the measure 40-19. It now goes back to the Senate, which has already approved a more-restrictive version that would have required a bar to serve food in order to allow guns.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news...rs_bill_070109
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07-01-2009, 10:31
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Good deal,
Now I can legally do what I've been doing for years. Ain't leaving that rascal in my car and you never know when you might need to reprimand a surley waiter.
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07-01-2009, 12:49
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Anyone hear anything about other states adopting this?
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07-01-2009, 13:18
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In the words of Lee Marvin in the film Cat Balou, "I'll drink to that".!!!
I pray that our second amendment will remain strong through the rough waters ahead!
My $.02.
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07-01-2009, 13:39
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Quote:
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I pray that our second amendment will remain strong through the rough waters ahead!RF 1
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Now if we can just start bring them into SCHOOLS!
I'm kidding, I'M KIDDING  (Let's not start that again!  )
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07-01-2009, 14:03
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This bill passing is of great interest to myself and a few gals I know. Honestly, having armed "good guys" in the establishments that are frequented, is a GOOD thing, IMVHO!
Am curious....(And hope am not flamed for asking,) but, IF a QP now is legally carrying and violence breaks out, what would be the objective if put in that position?
Thank you TS, for the update!
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07-01-2009, 14:14
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This bill passing is of great interest to myself and a few gals I know. Honestly, having armed "good guys" in the establishments that are frequented, is a GOOD thing, IMVHO!  Am curious....(And hope am not flamed for asking,) but, IF a QP now is legally carrying and violence breaks out, what would be the objective if put in that position? Thank you TS, for the update!
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What kind of places do you hang out at?!!!?!
Two in the chest one in the head?
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07-01-2009, 14:39
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Nothing stopping you
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This bill passing is of great interest to myself and a few gals I know. Honestly, having armed "good guys" in the establishments that are frequented, is a GOOD thing, IMVHO.....
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There is nothing stopping you or the gals you know from getting your own CC License.
Nothing stopping a trained female from pulling a handgun in the right situation and putting 2 well aimed shots in some dirt bag's chest.
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07-01-2009, 14:57
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Now if we can just start bring them into SCHOOLS!
I'm kidding, I'M KIDDING  (Let's not start that again!  )
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Richards turf!!
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07-01-2009, 15:03
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Tennessee has also passed similar legislation. Gov Bredesen (D) vetoed the bill and the Senate overrode his veto. It will go into effect July 14.
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07-01-2009, 15:18
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There is nothing stopping you or the gals you know from getting your own CC License.
Nothing stopping a trained female from pulling a handgun in the right situation and putting 2 well aimed shots in some dirt bag's chest.
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Pete,
I debated weather or not to post this, but seeing as I cannot remember it ever being posted as a question before, I will ask...
My reasoning for not obtaining a permit and carrying was the fact that those I would be protecting could not, in any sense "move" from harms way, should my weapon somehow be turned against me.
I know, it must sound silly to trained operatoors...but for average folks, am sure it does happen...and I guess it is plain old fashioned fear.
Holly
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07-01-2009, 15:23
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Fight or flight
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......My reasoning for not obtaining a permit and carrying was the fact that those I would be protecting could not, in any sense "move" from harms way, .......
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Fight or flight
Of two options you have restricted yourself to none.
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07-01-2009, 15:42
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Fight or flight
Of two options you have restricted yourself to none.
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Pete Sir,
Never thought of it that way.
Thank you, Sir.
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07-01-2009, 15:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by echoes
Pete,
I debated weather or not to post this, but seeing as I cannot remember it ever being posted as a question before, I will ask...
My reasoning for not obtaining a permit and carrying was the fact that those I would be protecting could not, in any sense "move" from harms way, should my weapon somehow be turned against me.
I know, it must sound silly to trained operatoors...but for average folks, am sure it does happen...and I guess it is plain old fashioned fear.
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Holly,
Also look at it this way.....If some dirt bag(s) do happen upon you and your sis in anyway, they're already thinking you're nothing but sheep, so you're an "easy" target.
But low and behold if (when) you pull your piece and happen to drop one of them, or even get off a snap shot, chances are, the others will be running for their lives as fast as they can screaming, "Holy Crap !!!!! That ain't no Sheep....that's a Sheepdog....and SHE'S GOT TEETH !!!!"
Don't be afraid to get your CC.
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07-01-2009, 16:38
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Personally - I have mixed feelings on the issue - we'll just have to see how it plays out on the stage of human farce.
Richard's $.02
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