Go Back   Professional Soldiers ® > UWOA > Insurgencies & Guerrilla Warfare

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-02-2008, 14:28   #1
rubberneck
Area Commander
 
rubberneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Buckingham, Pa.
Posts: 1,746
Taliban "on the brink of defeat"

I was wondering if Brig Mark Carleton-Smith is being overly optimistic with his views on the status of the Taliban.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...defeat%27.html


Quote:
Afghan insurgents 'on brink of defeat'
By Thomas Harding in Lashkar Gah
Last Updated: 8:09PM BST 02/06/2008
Missions by special forces and air strikes by unmanned drones have "decapitated" the Taliban and brought the war in Afghanistan to a "tipping point", the commander of British forces has said.


The new "precise, surgical" tactics have killed scores of insurgent leaders and made it extremely difficult for Pakistan-based Taliban leaders to prosecute the campaign, according to Brig Mark Carleton-Smith.

In the past two years an estimated 7,000 Taliban have been killed, the majority in southern and eastern Afghanistan. But it is the "very effective targeted decapitation operations" that have removed "several echelons of commanders".

This in turn has left the insurgents on the brink of defeat, the head of Task Force Helmand said.

"The Taliban are much weaker," he said from 16 Air Assault Brigade headquarters in Lashkar Gah.

"The tide is clearly ebbing not flowing for them. Their chain of command is disrupted and they are short of weapons and ammunition."

Last year's killing of Mullah Dadullah, the Taliban chief, most likely by the Special Boat Service, was "a seminal moment in dislocating" their operation in southern Afghanistan, said Brig Carleton-Smith, 44, who has extensive operational experience in Afghanistan and Iraq and has commanded elite Army troops.

"We have seen increasing fissures of stress through the whole organisation that has led to internecine and fratricidal strife between competing groups."

Taliban fighters are apparently becoming increasingly unpopular in Helmand, where they are reliant on the local population for food and water.

They have also been subjected to strikes by the RAF's American-made Reaper unmanned aerial vehicle and the guided Royal Artillery missile system, which have both proved a major battlefield success.

"I can therefore judge the Taliban insurgency a failure at the moment," said Brig Carleton-Smith. "We have reached the tipping point."

The task is now to regenerate the economy to win over the civilian population of Helmand, the base for 8,000 British soldiers.

Lashkar Gah, the provincial capital, appears to be a town on the cusp of an economic boom if security remains stable.

A new airport will be ready by the end of this year and a packaging factory by the end of next year.

This could enable the soil-rich "fruit basket of Afghanistan" to export its food.

Alternative crops, such as wheat or rape, could prove a greater attraction than Helmand's massive opium trade, especially as international prices continue to rise.

Much of the Taliban operation is run by Mullah Omar and to a lesser extent al-Qa'eda from their headquarters in Quetta, across the border in Pakistan.

The ability of what is known as the Quetta Shura leadership had been "hugely reduced" and its influence "increasingly marginalised", the brigadier said. Michael Ryder, the senior Foreign Office official in Helmand, agreed that intelligence assessments suggested that the Taliban had become "fractured and fragmented".

"There's a lot of suspicion from southern Taliban commanders of the agenda of Quetta Shura," he said, with the leaders trying to draw in an estimated £20 million a year from the opium trade.

The number of Afghans involved in the insurgency has also fallen, with increasing numbers of Pakistanis, Chechens, Uzbeks and Arabs found dead on the battlefield.

However, with the shortage of helicopters still a problem, most movement is by road and Brig Carleton-Smith warned that British forces must prepare for an increasingly Iraq-style insurgency as the Taliban modified its tactics from pitched battles to ambushes and roadside bombs.
rubberneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 14:41   #2
The Reaper
Quiet Professional
 
The Reaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,813
Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberneck View Post
I was wondering if Brig Mark Carleton-Smith is being overly optimistic with his views on the status of the Taliban.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...defeat%27.html
Do you mean this article?

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...45&postcount=8

First search, then post.

TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910

De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
The Reaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2008, 14:43   #3
rubberneck
Area Commander
 
rubberneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Buckingham, Pa.
Posts: 1,746
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper View Post
Do you mean this article?

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...45&postcount=8

First search, then post.

TR
Looks like it is one and the same. I usually ready all the new threads. Somehow I missed yours. Sorry about that.
rubberneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2008, 15:05   #4
BlackDragon0311
Asset
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Near D.C.
Posts: 45
down but not out...

friend of mine recently told me 2/7 Marines who are currently deployed in afgahn recently recalled 100 Marines who had gotten out and been on inactive reserves to be combat replacements. We got em on the ropes, now we just gotta finish the job, though from what my buddy said, they're not gonna make it easy...good, wouldn't be any fun then.

~JohnnyBoy
__________________
"Enter Arma, Inem Silent Legas"- In time of war the law falls silent.

Cicero
BlackDragon0311 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2008, 20:15   #5
hoot72
Guerrilla
 
hoot72's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: North of the Kingdom of Brunei, South of Mindanao
Posts: 482
Its no secret in pakistan WHERE the taliban are setting up base nowdays; Karachi, west side of the city in the slums...police nor army go into that area as its pretty obvious who controls it.
hoot72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2008, 05:09   #6
MtnGoat
Quiet Professional
 
MtnGoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Asscrackistan
Posts: 4,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoot72 View Post
Its no secret in pakistan WHERE the taliban are setting up base nowdays; Karachi, west side of the city in the slums...police nor army go into that area as its pretty obvious who controls it.
That part of Karachi is run by Gangs - Street Gang not the TTP (TB). Its like what LA was in the 80's with the Bloods and Crips. One half of the area is run by one gang while the other half it run by the other.


PAKMIL and LEO have to ask or tell the Leaders when they will be driving through the area so their convoys don't get shoot up.
__________________
"Berg Heil"

History teaches that when you become indifferent and lose the will to fight someone who has the will to fight will take over."

COLONEL BULL SIMONS

Intelligence failures are failures of command [just] as operations failures are command failures.”
MtnGoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2010, 21:15   #7
wet dog
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
It amazing what,...

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubberneck View Post
I was wondering if Brig Mark Carleton-Smith is being overly optimistic with his views on the status of the Taliban.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...defeat%27.html
two years and a month can do...
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 08:05   #8
Bechorg
Quiet Professional
 
Bechorg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: >6000ft
Posts: 219
BS

I can only speak for RC EAST but they are strong as ever. There continues to be absolute strongholds in each of the eastern provinces that ANSF cannot go into and we certainly cant either without constant contact with heavy resistance. As a whole I believe the Tban are becoming less relevant to the people where ANSF can see the light, but in these strongholds they have a complete grip on the people. We need to provide industry and jobs for there to be a wedge between the taliban and the people because there isn't a benefit to leave the dark side at the moment.
Bechorg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 14:10   #9
cszakolczai
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
http://www.understandingwar.org/afghanistan-project

For those interested in reading more. You can read about RC East a little bit, along with the other RC's. There are some interesting numbers presented as well, such as the Helmand province accounting for 80% of the Opium production in Afghanistan.
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2010, 14:34   #10
mark46th
Quiet Professional
 
mark46th's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Orange, Ca.
Posts: 4,950
"There's a lot of suspicion from southern Taliban commanders of the agenda of Quetta Shura," he said, with the leaders trying to draw in an estimated £20 million a year from the opium trade."

I know Karzai and his buddies are involved in the Opium Trade but if we ever decide to truly leave Afghanistan, we should use soil sterilants on the poppy fields. Actually, I wish we would do it now, especially if it is a major source of income for the Taliban.
mark46th is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:32.



Copyright 2004-2022 by Professional Soldiers ®
Site Designed, Maintained, & Hosted by Hilliker Technologies