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Old 04-27-2016, 08:16   #1
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Does Trump Have Conservative Principles?

In my opinion, Trump's principles serve Trump. Are we to believe that after a lifetime of supporting progressive causes and politicians, he has had an epiphany, and he is now a constitutional conservative?

If he is elected, we will have at least four-years to answer that question. The reason I support Ted Cruz for President is that he has a track record of fighting for and supporting constitutional principles. Donald Trump does not.


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Conservatives for Trump? - Thomas Sowell

The sudden appearance of Donald Trump on the political horizon last year may have been surprising, but not nearly as surprising as seeing some conservatives supporting him.

Does Trump have conservative principles? Does he have any principles at all, other than promoting Donald Trump? A smorgasbord of political positions -- none of them indicating any serious thought about complicated issues -- is not a principle. Nor is cheering for himself and boasting about all the great things he is going to do as President.

Haven't we seen this movie before? Wasn't Barack Obama going to heal the racial divide, end the partisan bickering in Washington, have the most transparent administration ever, lower the cost of health care and let you keep your own doctor?

...For conservatives especially, there is finally a real choice for a change -- and a sharp contrast with Donald Trump. Senator Ted Cruz has a track record that leaves no doubt as to his adherence to conservative principles. And he is as thoroughly versed in the issues facing this country as anyone who has run for President since Ronald Reagan.

Has Senator Cruz been flawless? Certainly not, and this column has more than once pointed out some of those flaws. But he has both the principles and the intellect for the job. Given the alternatives -- Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton -- that should be more than enough this election year.

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Old 04-27-2016, 08:41   #2
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Trump Train

Well, if everybody would get on the Trump Train and vote R down ticket he'll have to deal with a Republican majority.

Unless you're saying the Republicans in Congress are do nothings. Oh! Wait! What am I saying?
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:35   #3
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Well, if everybody would get on the Trump Train and vote R down ticket he'll have to deal with a Republican majority.

Unless you're saying the Republicans in Congress are do nothings. Oh! Wait! What am I saying?
LOL, the current GOP, all talk, and absolutely no action. And exactly why Mr. Trump will be the next President of the United States.
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Old 04-27-2016, 09:45   #4
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I believe that "conservative" and "liberal" values have gotten as muddied as the "Republican" and "Democrat" values have.

Who knows what any of them are from day-to-day, except chameleons!
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Old 04-27-2016, 13:02   #5
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I'm looking for an Executive not an Ideologue.
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Old 04-27-2016, 13:36   #6
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SF-TX,

Aside from maybe Ben Carson, name one of this years candidates that doesn't have some suspect behaviors, hasn't talked out both ends and doesn;t have something personally gain.

The same can be said for the stellar individuals like George Soros, Karl Rove, Bill Kriostol, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney who trying to upend the election.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:57   #7
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What do Russians think of Donald Trump?

http://www.bbc.com/news/36155109
not sure what to make of it. If Russians perceive Putin and Trump as buddy-buddy, is that good for Americans? for the world?


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In my opinion, Trump's principles serve Trump. Are we to believe that after a lifetime of supporting progressive causes and politicians, he has had an epiphany, and he is now a constitutional conservative?

If he is elected, we will have at least four-years to answer that question. The reason I support Ted Cruz for President is that he has a track record of fighting for and supporting constitutional principles. Donald Trump does not.
Trump's consistent track record of me, myself, and I makes it very hard to believe he has the country, Americans, or anyone else's interest in mind. Interests do coincide, however.

I'm hoping/praying for Carly-Cruz....but bracing for 4 years (if not 8) of Hillary. There are more female voters in the US, and they are more likely to vote. She uses the woman card to great advantage in every speaking events. Despite her poor track record, I've seen how she casts her magic over African American female figures, which turns into numerous supports from those figures' followers. Geez, she's quite the force multiplier
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Old 04-28-2016, 12:55   #8
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not sure what to make of it. If Russians perceive Putin and Trump as buddy-buddy, is that good for Americans? for the world?
I think it is great for America. The Russians aren't Muslim. I want Trump and Putin to have a good relationship. Allies even. A conflict with the Ruskies is another death blow to Western Civilization...and honestly...I believe Russia is the only hope of saving Europe from a complete Muslim invasion. Globalists and neo-con's saber-rattle against Russia, and we pretty dang well know, that those groups want to see the US destroyed as a sovereign country.

I don't like their dealings with Iran, or what's happened in the Ukraine, but going against them is not in our National interest...not remotely...and George Soros hates the Russians...that's a good sign.


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She uses the woman card to great advantage in every speaking events. Despite her poor track record, I've seen how she casts her magic over African American female figures, which turns into numerous supports from those figures' followers. Geez, she's quite the force multiplier
She is going to get burned at the stake using the woman card...just wait.

Trump + Clinton Foundation + million dollar Wahhabi Muslim country contributions = death for Hitlery on women's rights.

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Old 05-03-2016, 20:31   #9
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If he is elected, we will have at least four-years to answer that question. The reason I support Ted Cruz for President is that he has a track record of fighting for and supporting constitutional principles. Donald Trump does not.
I did not want Cruz for president, but for the same reasons that you state I would find him an excellent choice as Attorney General. Or....SCOTUS nominee.

Cruz on SCOTUS would let him defend the constitution the best. Trump naming him as a front runner for nominee would be a masterful way to calm fears of Armageddon among conservatives.
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Old 05-06-2016, 02:11   #10
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I did not want Cruz for president, but for the same reasons that you state I would find him an excellent choice as Attorney General. Or....SCOTUS nominee.

Cruz on SCOTUS would let him defend the constitution the best. Trump naming him as a front runner for nominee would be a masterful way to calm fears of Armageddon among conservatives.
I like that idea.....a LOT!
Trey Gowdy and Napalitano for the next two.
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Old 05-07-2016, 14:57   #11
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You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.
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Old 05-07-2016, 15:32   #12
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You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.
Only because establishment types will vote for Hillery.

Hey, do what we've been told to do the last 4 election cycles. Hold your nose and vote for the R. I did it. You still wake up the next morning.
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Old 05-07-2016, 15:56   #13
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You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.
Com'on RL, from my seat it appears you have drank the kool-aid that Glenn Beck and Rafael Cruz have been serving and your vision is blurred.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:00   #14
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Com'on RL, from my seat it appears you have drank the kool-aid that Glenn Beck and Rafael Cruz have been serving and your vision is blurred.
And you sound like Scottie Nell-Hughes.

Nothing the man can do is wrong........

Even if it is pander to the left or renounce portions of his own fabricated tax plan.

The man is a con artist and will likely be the downfall of the nation. We have already seen what 8 years of someone with no principles can do to this nation.

When he loses to Hillary, don't blame those of us who refused to sacrifice our principles and "get on board". Blame your savior for refusing to extend an olive branch to the conservative movement.

The argument that he is "better than Hillary" is irrelevant. If anything, we should be trying to convince him to at least stand for SOMETHING and bring the party together.

I was open to him as of last year, and really liked the idea of someone who was going to come in a throw a wrench in the gears. But as things progressed and his lack of substance became more prevalent, and the endless conga line of mouthpieces on EVERY news outlet defending his childish remarks and tabloid style personal attacks...........I began to realize that he is nothing more than a con man selling snake oil.

As for those of you who support him within the regiment, mind your tounge when expressing your displeasure with "new and improved" state of our regiment and "future changes" as he has openly expressed supporting combat arm integration between men and women.

Along with partial birth abortion.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Unless he starts to move back right and actually stand for something MORAL, I will be sitting this one out and voting the downticket only.
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Old 05-07-2016, 16:03   #15
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You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.
Trump was not my first pick I helped Cruz get his first win. You give too much credit to Hillary, I think she is much more reviled than Trump and that the dems would much rather have had anyone else to vote for, Bernie don't count. But hey it's her turn and O will not throw her under the bus. I am with Pete just hold your nose and pull that lever for the republican.
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