Does Trump Have Conservative Principles?

[SittingElf]

Originally Posted by abc_123

I did not want Cruz for president, but for the same reasons that you state I would find him an excellent choice as Attorney General. Or....SCOTUS nominee.

Cruz on SCOTUS would let him defend the constitution the best. Trump naming him as a front runner for nominee would be a masterful way to calm fears of Armageddon among conservatives.

I like that idea.....a LOT!
Trey Gowdy and Napalitano for the next two.

[Roguish Lawyer]

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

Only because establishment types will vote for Hillery.

Hey, do what we've been told to do the last 4 election cycles. Hold your nose and vote for the R. I did it. You still wake up the next morning.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

Com'on RL, from my seat it appears you have drank the kool-aid that Glenn Beck and Rafael Cruz have been serving and your vision is blurred.

[cbtengr]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

Trump was not my first pick I helped Cruz get his first win. You give too much credit to Hillary, I think she is much more reviled than Trump and that the dems would much rather have had anyone else to vote for, Bernie don't count. But hey it's her turn and O will not throw her under the bus. I am with Pete just hold your nose and pull that lever for the republican.

[Pete]

GOPers Refusing To Support Trump ‘Sounding Like Babies and Whiners,’ ‘Not Very Adult-Like’

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...ry-adult-like/

"Fox News Channel and Fox Business Network host Neil Cavuto argued that Republicans who are saying they won’t support presumptive nominee Donald Trump “are all sounding like babies and whiners” and “not very adult-like” on Friday’s “Your World.”

Cavuto said, [relevant remarks being around 2:00] “I have no horse in this race. Donald trump doesn’t come on this show, hates me, whatever. That’s fine. … Now, what I’m saying though is, these guys are all sounding like babies and whiners. They didn’t win. I understand that. The type of candidate they wanted to win didn’t win. I understand that. But, he did get the overwhelming vote. He put this thing to bed and killed them all. So you might not like the consequences, but just to walk out and have a snit fit, no pun intended, sounds to me to be not very adult-like.”

He added, “I’m just saying, collectively, this is not a political statement, but he won. He won. Fair and square he won. Time to move on.”."

RL - "my" guy didn't win the last 4 presidential election cycles. Every time the GOPe told me to hold my nose and vote for the R which I did.

Now "your" guy didn't win and all the GOPe and folks like you are all butt hurt and swearing to sit it out or go third party.

Why the FUCK should I support "your" guy four years from now?

Give me one good reason that cancels out your butt hurt actions this cycle!

[craigepo]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

I am right there with you. But, I have to vote for Trump, if for no other reason than a possibly delusional hope: I know that Clinton will make horrible choices for the country, and will surround herself with like-minded America haters. There is at least a chance that Trump will act in the best interest of the country, and may put some good people in office.

Damnable position to be in. The U.S. Has just nominated the two most unpopular candidates in recent memory to run for the most powerful job on the planet. I liken our choice to picking our next prison warden-we can pick one we know will be bad, or. We can pick one that might be ok.

Also, I'm not so sure that Trump loses this race. Trump has the potential, if he can just not screw up.

[Sdiver]

I wonder what it would like if social media (internet) had been around back during the 1980 Presidential election? If we wouldn't have seen many of the same comments, that we're seeing now?

The first time I ever voted was during the 1984 election, and everyone was "Proud to American" that Reagan made America "Great Again." I do seem to remember there was some unfavorable things said about Reagan during the primaries and subsequent election and that he and Bush Sr. went at it a few times. Maybe some of our more "experienced" members (aka, FOGs) will remember that election. Now, in the GOP, we talk about Reagan with reverence. That the party would change its moniker from the "Party of Lincoln" to the "Party of Reagan; with some help from Lincoln."

Recently I've been watching old reruns of The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, and the comedians of the time, especially Johnny, ripped into Reagan quite viciously. Comedians back then seemed to have a fairly good pulse of what was going on in politics. Today, not so much, what with the PC crowd crying at the drop of a hat about or saying anything bad against the Dems or the current administration. Look at Tim Allen and his show at how they are almost ostracized from tinsel-town. Hell, I'm surprised that his show is even still on.

We're just pissed that for the past 5 1/2 years, we've given the Republicans what they wanted to "combat" the current administration, but they have failed us and have let President Jarrett and her puppet Barry, go on willy-nilly and do what they wanted, without fear of repercussions. In fact, falling "in bed" with them more or less.

Now someone like Trump comes along who has the platform, and money, to say what it is we've saying (SCREAMING) for the past 7 years, were it was virtually ignored by the "establishment", the same ones who are "jumping ship" because of Trump.

We've always said that we need to "flush" the crap out of Washington, and with Trump coming along, he is showing the voters just who the crap is, and who needs to be flushed. Now it'll just take the voters to make it happen.

Now the theme of this thread is: Does Trump Have Conservative Principles?
I wonder how many asked that of Reagan back in 1980?
He used to be a Democrat.
Was President of a Union (Screen Actors Guild)
His issue on Gun Control ... He was against it, but yet supported the Assault Weapons ban via the Brady Bill
... and I'm sure there are other comparisons that could be made between R.R. and Trump, both good and bad.

In actuality, I'm glad that Cruz lost the his bid. IMO, he would work for us better by staying in the Senate. Taking a Cabinet position or even filling the vacant SCOTUS chair, might be okay, granted if Trump becomes POTUS, but all in all, I feel he better serves us in the Senate, say as the Majority Leader.

[GratefulCitizen]

Trump is a revolutionary leader, not a governing leader.
Someone else will fill that governing role at a later date.

First things first.
Certain corrupt power structures must be exposed and deposed.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

You guys can continue to fantasize about what Trump will do, consistent with your principles. The truth is you have been conned. Won't matter, he will lose to Hillary. Congrats.

LOL, I bet you're a ton of fun to be around when your team gets their asses beat.

Don't be a marplot Francis, head up, eyes straight and assist your "Team".

[sinjefe]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...l?intcmp=hpbt2

Big, efe-ing surprise there. "On my plan, (tax rates) are going down. But by the time it's negotiated, they'll go up." WTF? So, taxes up and minimum wage up now?

[craigepo]

If anyone is considering sitting this one out, please take a look at this article by Victor Hanson at National Review (yes, the National Review that has been waging war on Trump for months). I'm not saying that you need to forget all of your morals and character, but you should at least consider what 8 more years of Obamanization by American-hating liberals would look like.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl..._campaign=May9

[Box]

...no thanks

I'm just going to pout and put my head in the sand. Everything should be fine.

[Mills]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Com'on RL, from my seat it appears you have drank the kool-aid that Glenn Beck and Rafael Cruz have been serving and your vision is blurred.

And you sound like Scottie Nell-Hughes.

Nothing the man can do is wrong........

Even if it is pander to the left or renounce portions of his own fabricated tax plan.

The man is a con artist and will likely be the downfall of the nation. We have already seen what 8 years of someone with no principles can do to this nation.

When he loses to Hillary, don't blame those of us who refused to sacrifice our principles and "get on board". Blame your savior for refusing to extend an olive branch to the conservative movement.

The argument that he is "better than Hillary" is irrelevant. If anything, we should be trying to convince him to at least stand for SOMETHING and bring the party together.

I was open to him as of last year, and really liked the idea of someone who was going to come in a throw a wrench in the gears. But as things progressed and his lack of substance became more prevalent, and the endless conga line of mouthpieces on EVERY news outlet defending his childish remarks and tabloid style personal attacks...........I began to realize that he is nothing more than a con man selling snake oil.

As for those of you who support him within the regiment, mind your tounge when expressing your displeasure with "new and improved" state of our regiment and "future changes" as he has openly expressed supporting combat arm integration between men and women.

Along with partial birth abortion.

Thanks, but no thanks.

Unless he starts to move back right and actually stand for something MORAL, I will be sitting this one out and voting the downticket only.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Mills

Unless he starts to move back right and actually stand for something MORAL, I will be sitting this one out and voting the downticket only.

Sore loser.....