The Adventure Challenge

[dknob]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Can this be accomplished successfully? Yes

Do you accept the challenge? Yes

Where do you start? Charleston, SC

What route do you take? SC > NC > TN > KY > MO > NE > WY > ID > OR

Where do you plan to finish? Waldport, OR

How long do you think it will take you?
Journey is roughly 2900 miles, at 7 miles a day for 450 days will come out to 3150 miles. So I decide to play it safe and go with 475 days to finish.

What is in your field gear?
-Cold weather sleeping bag (4 pounds)
- x2 pair of hiking boots (6 pounds)
- x1 pair of hiking shoes/trail running (2 pounds)
- CLOTHING package of two pair of gloves, 4 pants (some will be woodland BDU), a beanie, a Cold weather jacket, a dozen socks, shirts, and long sleeve tops will be around 13-15 pounds
- poncho
- deciding not to bring a tent, and rather make a shelter if it asolutely required it

What modern items are critical, and what items from the period will work for you?
- Sewing kit
- Hygiene kit (8 bars of soap, x3 tubes of toothpaste)
- Medkit: antibiotics, ibuprofen, gauze, etc. (4 pounds)

What are your priorities?
Compass, map, medical kit
- first starting kit, matches, lighters, etc

How will you carry it?
ALICE pack - estimated weight will be 55-65 pounds in the pack, and weapon will be roughly 10 pounds.

What firearms will you take?
HK417 (9 pounds), 20 inch barrel
- 6 flashbangs to ward off a grizzly or something

How much ammo, accessories, etc.?
- 400 rounds of 7.62x51 @ roughly 22 pounds
- ACOG

What edged tools do you take?
- Machete 1 pound
- E tool 1.5 pounds
- 2 multitools - 1 pound
- sharpener

What navigational aids do you take?
- military compass and maps of the US
- flashlight (preferrably surefire) with extra batteries (wont be used commonly, only for emergency purposes, so not taking many batteries)

What do you think your odds are of successfully completing this journey?
- 90% chance of success

What do you do in the 30 days before you leave?
- study study study survival guides and flora and fauna along my journey (whats edible, whats not, how to cook, how to set traps, etc etc)

Let’s think this one through as stated first, we can do branches and sequels later.

Thoughts?

TR

I just saw this awesome thread and thought I'd throw my plan out there - I made sure to not read any other replies so I don't start copying ideas.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by dknob

I just saw this awesome thread and thought I'd throw my plan out there - I made sure to not read any other replies so I don't start copying ideas.

Kudos for your honesty.

If you read the thread, you will see why several of your choices could be improved upon. Might be worth doing now and adjust fire as needed.

What states do you plan to be in during the 1-2 winters you will be travelling? I wouldn't want it to be in any of the last four you named with the gear you have listed when the snows come.

TR

[PSM]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Kudos for your honesty.

If you read the thread, you will see why several of your choices could be improved upon. Might be worth doing now and adjust fire as needed.

What states do you plan to be in during the 1-2 winters you will be travelling? I wouldn't want it to be in any of the last four you named.

TR

Glad to see this back in the loop. Recent political events have had me reconsidering the length of the trip.

Pat

[dknob]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Kudos for your honesty.

If you read the thread, you will see why several of your choices could be improved upon. Might be worth doing now and adjust fire as needed.

What states do you plan to be in during the 1-2 winters you will be travelling? I wouldn't want it to be in any of the last four you named with the gear you have listed when the snows come.

TR

The way I see it - if I start in Charleston and move NW to cross the apps through NC and then to central TN is about 400 miles, at my distance of 7 miles a day that SHOULD take 2 months. But Im allocating 3 months to make that trek. And I decided to do it starting November and finish that leg in January.

Second leg would be from TN to NW Missouri another 400 miles which at 7 miles a day will be 2 months long. Even though I foresee myself doing much more then 7 in these states for some days. This will be from January to March.

Third leg would be from NW Missouri to Northern Nebraska - another 400 miles in 2 months at the most. This will be from March to May.

Fourth leg will take me to the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, 400 miles later from Northern Nebraska to central Wyoming - From May to July.

Starting in Central Wyoming, I give myself more then enough time to get to the Western Idaho - a whopping 5 months - I should need only 4 since im traveling this leg from July to November.

Last leg is from Idaho to the coast of Oregon, another 400 miles in about 2 months from November to January.

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In terms of equipment changes:
* 550 cord, 200 + feet.
* Although I do have a cold weather sleeping bag that I saw on amazon that seems legit - I will also bring a single person tent to battle the elements.
* i will have a map of the US as mentioned, but it obviously wont be 1:24,000 or whatever you mentioned before. Just enough to show me the major rivers, ranges, etc (landmarks).
*Although I will bring a map of a very detailed pacific northwest because in case something goes wrong and Im in Southern Oregon instead of Northern Oregon and I dont know my bearings. i can end up walking south towards california and miss my ride.
* I still wont bring electornics - i dont need them.
* water purifiers? Ive humped the shit out of the balkan mountain ranges as wel as the rockys. you dont need water purifiers.. you definitely dont need them in 1700.
* Food wise - some reserve packets of very high caloric meals, nothing too bulky - 4-5 pounds worth.

So I rpobably upped my weight to about 10 pounds so im looking at a 68-72 pound ruck.

[tonyz]

In the spirit of the OP...

The epitome of long distance wilderness travel on YouTube - Nation Geographic movie - 42 minutes - before it's pulled down.

1804-06 Lewis and Clark Expedition Documentary

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc9tG9a...%3DMc9tG9aD3P4

[Golf1echo]

I don't mean to necropost but I often think of this exercise, certainly a daunting proposition. The Corp of Discovery Expedition illustrates several of the challenges and hardships one would encounter.

It seemed that information that gives one foresight to possible routes would be very beneficial....

It occurs that rail road routes could be a good reference as they required certain parameters in order to be built, grade, routes, terrain, etc... It seemed there must be more specific information available that would be helpful to the journey... similar to a road atlas. Turns out there is information about routes and details. One such example is from the partnership of Kit Carson and John Fremont. " The Exploring Expedition to the Rocky Mountains and Northern California"
Narrative:
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/96822#page/1/mode/1up

In it's day it was used as an atlas, a travel guide, and an adventure read.
Kit Carson story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLxsSGO2VWE
21 minute mark...
Next trip across the country might have a few detours to explore some of the history.

[PSM]

This may be a necro post, but new adventurers have recently arrived. I quoted TR's original challenge to Grok, and it accepted. It even followed the rules in the first post and brought current technology...including adding a GPS receiver to it's kit. (I challenged this decision later.)

"Grok’s plan for The PS.com Adventure Challenge (solo 1700 East Coast to Pacific Coast crossing):

I accept the mission. Goal: complete a solo, recorded overland traverse of North America starting from a 1700 East Coast port and ending on the Pacific coast of California, Oregon, or Washington. Maximum 100 lb personal carry of modern gear (concealed under or in period-appropriate clothing/baggage until clear of European settlements). Gold for local purchases. Walking primary mode; boats only for necessary water crossings. Digital camera, digital recorder, and PDA for documentation. Declare destination in advance so the return machine waits 30 days.

1. Start and Finish Selection

Start: Charles Town (Charleston), South Carolina, or Philadelphia. Charleston offers milder winters for an early departure, established trade networks, and access southward/westward river systems. Philadelphia is more central and better connected to interior paths. I choose Philadelphia for better access to the mid-Atlantic corridor and known Native trade routes.

Finish: Mouth of the Columbia River area (near present-day Astoria, Oregon / Cape Disappointment, Washington). This is the logical Pacific terminus that later explorers targeted, has a clear coastal landmark, and offers a viable arrival window. Alternative backup: Monterey Bay or San Francisco Bay area if southern route is forced.

Declared arrival window: late summer / early fall of the second year (allowing ~18–24 months total, accounting for seasons, delays, and recovery).
2. Gear (≤100 lb total, prioritized for multi-use, durability, and concealment)
Modern items must be hideable under 1700 clothing (wool/linen shirts, breeches, coat, hat, moccasins or sturdy shoes) or in a period-style pack/bedroll until past the frontier.

Core survival & mobility (~45–50 lb)

Lightweight modular backpack frame + period canvas/leather cover.
High-quality synthetic sleeping bag / bivy (compressible) + ultralight tarp or small tent.

Multi-fuel stove + compact cook set (or pure fire-starting kit if fuel is limited).
Water filter / purification tablets + collapsible bottles / bladders (3–4 L capacity).

Navigation: modern topographic maps (laminated or digital on PDA), compass, basic GPS unit with long-life batteries or hand-crank/solar charger.

Footwear: modern hiking boots that can be covered or swapped for period moccasins; spare socks.

Clothing layers: moisture-wicking base, insulating mid, waterproof shell (all low-profile colors).

Weapons & tools (~15–20 lb)

Modern rifle or carbine in a common black-powder caliber equivalent (or a high-quality flintlock purchased/adapted locally) + modern optics that can be removed. Spare modern ammunition limited; rely on local powder/lead once established.
Quality knife, multi-tool, small hatchet/tomahawk, folding saw.
Fishing kit, snares, basic trapping materials.

Medical & health (~8–10 lb)

Comprehensive first-aid / trauma kit (antibiotics, pain management, wound care, anti-malarials/diarrheals, waterborne illness meds, dental kit).
Water purification, electrolyte packets, high-calorie dense rations for the first weeks.

Insect repellent, sunscreen, basic hygiene.
Recording & power (~10–12 lb)

Digital camera + extra memory, digital recorder, rugged PDA/tablet with offline maps, journals, and language notes.

Solar charger + spare batteries / power bank. Hand-crank backup.
Waterproof cases and desiccant.

Trade & misc (~10–15 lb)

Gold (coins or small bars) as allowed.
Trade goods: beads, metal tools, cloth, mirrors, knives (high value, low weight).
Fire starters (ferro rod + matches), repair kit (cordage, needle/thread, duct tape equivalent), signal items.

Everything is chosen for redundancy, repairability with 1700 materials, and the ability to cache or abandon non-essentials later. Total kept under 100 lb so I can move unencumbered once past settlements.

3. Route Strategy

Primary corridor approximates a mid-latitude path that balances known waterways, Native trails, forage, and lower mountain passes while avoiding the worst of the northern winters and southern deserts/disease.

Phase 1 – East to Appalachians / Ohio Valley (months 1–4): From Philadelphia west via established trails or the Susquehanna/Juniata corridor, then over the mountains toward the Ohio River system. Trade with and learn from Lenape, Shawnee, and other groups. Acquire horses or additional supplies with gold if possible (though the challenge emphasizes walking, local mounts for packing are pragmatic once past pure “civilization”).

Phase 2 – Ohio / Mississippi / lower Missouri or Platte corridor (months 4–10): Follow major rivers westward. Use the Ohio to the Mississippi, then either up the Missouri or a more central Platte/Republican route. This keeps me near water, game, and Native trade networks. Avoid deep southern fevers if possible.

Phase 3 – Plains to Rockies (months 10–16): Cross the Great Plains on foot or with any acquired pack animals, following river valleys (Platte or similar) for water and guidance. Time arrival at the Rockies for late spring/summer.

Phase 4 – Rockies crossing and Intermountain West (months 16–20): Aim for a relatively lower/southern pass system (South Pass area or equivalent known Native routes) rather than the extreme northern Bitterroots. Move through intermountain valleys (Green River, Snake, etc.) toward the Columbia or a California coastal approach.

Phase 5 – Final leg to Pacific (months 20–24): Descend to the Columbia River drainage or a more southern California route if conditions dictate, then to the designated coastal finish.

Seasonal timing is critical: leave in spring, winter in relatively sheltered areas with Native groups or self-sufficient camps, and push hard in the travel seasons. Pace target: sustainable 10–15+ miles per day when conditions allow, with rest and recovery built in.

4. Operational Approach
Intelligence & relations: Learn basic trade languages and customs quickly. Use gold and trade goods to buy information, guides for short segments (while remaining solo for the overall journey), food, and horses/pack animals. Avoid conflict; present as a neutral trader/explorer. Document everything.

Sustainability: Hunt, fish, forage, and trade for food. Maintain health aggressively (water discipline, wound care, calorie management). Cache non-critical gear if needed.

Recording: Daily PDA journal entries, photos of landscapes/people/plants/animals, voice notes. Protect electronics from weather and impact.

Contingencies: Alternate southern or northern adjustments if blocked. If severely injured or delayed, use gold to buy time or assistance while staying within the solo spirit. Declare a realistic arrival window with buffer.

5. Expected Outcome

With disciplined pacing, strong Native relations, solid gear, and seasonal awareness, the crossing is achievable in 18–24 months. The biggest risks are disease, injury, hostile encounters, getting lost in winter, or equipment failure. The digital record becomes the primary deliverable.

This plan prioritizes survival, mobility, documentation, and realistic use of 1700-era human networks while leveraging limited modern advantages. I would depart prepared, move deliberately, and arrive at the Pacific with the story intact.

Me:
You can carry a GPS receiver since it is present technology, but you can't take the satellites.

Grok:
You’re right!

A GPS receiver is present-day technology and can be carried under the rules, but the satellite constellation that makes it function does not exist in 1700. Without the satellites, the receiver is just an expensive, dead brick.
That was an oversight on my part.

Corrected navigation approach

Remove the GPS unit from the loadout. Rely instead on:
Pre-loaded, high-quality topographic maps (prepared with the best modern knowledge of 1700-era geography, river systems, mountain passes, and coastlines) — laminated or stored digitally on the PDA.

A high-quality magnetic compass (and backups).

Celestial navigation tools and knowledge (sextant or equivalent if weight allows, plus tables and the ability to determine latitude; longitude remains difficult without accurate timekeeping).

Terrain association, dead reckoning, and river/landmark following.
Information and guidance obtained from Native peoples along the way (trade goods and gold help here).

The PDA itself can still serve as a digital journal and map storage device, powered by solar/hand-crank, even if it cannot receive satellite signals.

This keeps the kit realistic for 1700 while still giving a significant information advantage over a purely period explorer. Thank you for the catch — the plan is stronger without the non-functional GPS."

Would Grok arrive there first? If so, what would it do with it's winnings?