06-04-2021, 06:37
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Fyi the Chinese bats never had this type of influenza but the bats from South America did and they started to study them in the lab in 2013
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24130481/
Look at bottom who funded study
https://journals.plos.org/plospathog...l.ppat.1003657
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06-04-2021, 10:34
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It was brought up early on in 2020 that NIH was routing funding to the lab for such experiments but it didn't fit the narrative...therefore no follow-up.
Politicize everything....
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06-04-2021, 11:38
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I feel we are now the "lab rats" in a large scale. It's just spooky....
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06-04-2021, 19:10
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Well if you must know whats on the agenda...
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Tha- ahem, thanks. When I see stuff like that I'm moved to remember something profound that CSB said some time ago:
"Can't we just shoot them?"
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06-04-2021, 21:26
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I feel we are now the "lab rats" in a large scale. It's just spooky....
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Meeting electro-mechanical elves with self-dribbling basketballs that are bejeweled like Faberge Eggs and being handed reams of completely unintelligible knowledge
That's spooky
This is manipulation
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06-05-2021, 19:48
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I’m going to ask this question again…anyone heard from Mugwumps? (Or have personal off-line conversations with him?)
I’m just curious.
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I just heard back from him, all is well.
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06-05-2021, 20:34
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I just heard back from him, all is well.
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Good to hear, thanks.
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06-06-2021, 09:33
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A question regarding WuFlu and the US involvement that appears to becoming to light.
I am trying to grasp why the USG would partner with China in making a potential bio-weapon. If the reports are even mildly true, it would seem this partnership would be a grave risk for our national security.
So the question is why would the USG partner with the Chinese in making a potential bio-weapon? Why not do it within US borders using US resources?
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06-06-2021, 16:45
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A question regarding WuFlu and the US involvement that appears to becoming to light.
I am trying to grasp why the USG would partner with China in making a potential bio-weapon. If the reports are even mildly true, it would seem this partnership would be a grave risk for our national security.
So the question is why would the USG partner with the Chinese in making a potential bio-weapon? Why not do it within US borders using US resources?
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In all the papers I have read and the emails along with other studies from the big Pharma manufactures, This is not a case of making bio-weapons it is a case of human error while messing with virus genes over the years and not taking enough safety protocols aka Arrogance on behalf of the lab.
FYI the USG has been funding this for years hoping to stem any new outbreaks around the world and at home. This happens in many other countries not just China.
Again when this mistake happened humans being human tried to cover their ass and control the narrative because of the lives lost. A few will resign or get fired but business will continue.
You have to remember from history when some scientist's said it might be bad to detonate a thermal nuclear bomb in earths atmosphere, We still did it along with a few thousand more between us and the Russians.
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06-06-2021, 17:02
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Originally Posted by 7624U
In all the papers I have read and the emails along with other studies from the big Pharma manufactures, This is not a case of making bio-weapons it is a case of human error while messing with virus genes over the years and not taking enough safety protocols aka Arrogance on behalf of the lab.
FYI the USG has been funding this for years hoping to stem any new outbreaks around the world and at home. This happens in many other countries not just China.
Again when this mistake happened humans being human tried to cover their ass and control the narrative because of the lives lost. A few will resign or get fired but business will continue.
You have to remember from history when some scientist's said it might be bad to detonate a thermal nuclear bomb in earths atmosphere, We still did it along with a few thousand more between us and the Russians.
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It is my opinion that the lab should never have been in a position to make a "mistake".
Gain-of-function studies seem to be the product of human arrogance not valued research unless you seek to weaponize the virus.
Humanity's end will not come in a ball of fire. It will come from a wisp of vapor......
The lessons of Shelly's Frankenstein need to be relearned. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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06-06-2021, 20:45
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Humanity's end will not come in a ball of fire. It will come from a wisp of vapor......
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Gamma Burst or Vapor to end life as we know it.  choices choices
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...ed-Energy.html
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06-07-2021, 06:25
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The lessons of Shelly's Frankenstein need to be relearned. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
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06-07-2021, 07:05
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I wish they would just leave it alone, Nature is Nature and we are on this planet for a reason. Not to be cloned, not to try to create a "new human or animal " they need to take a step back and stop trying to be Dr. Frankenstein and create monsters they cannot control. We live in a truly messed up World....
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06-07-2021, 07:08
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Meeting electro-mechanical elves with self-dribbling basketballs that are bejeweled like Faberge Eggs and being handed reams of completely unintelligible knowledge
That's spooky
This is manipulation
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Absolutely agree.....
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