Wuhan Coronavirus

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

on the flip...

Ohio governor destroys 10,000,000 jobs for 37 sick people.
Most of which are not covered by unemployment insurance.
Food riots to start next week.

Maryland Governor followed suite on the closure of restaurants, bars and theaters effective 17:00 Eastern today.

Is it better to "force" closure or to ban movement where restaurants are on the fence about whether to stay open or not?

I know there are restaurant owners on here (Penn)

Does the government bail out the hospitality industry as it did the banking industry? This is not an event of their (hospitality and service industry) making.

[bblhead672]

Governor of Indiana decides to jump on the train...

Indiana to close bars, restaurants to in-person patrons in response to coronavirus pandemic

Indiana has 12 confirmed cases.

[rsdengler]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Maryland Governor followed suite on the closure of restaurants, bars and theaters effective 17:00 Eastern today.

Is it better to "force" closure or to ban movement where restaurants are on the fence about whether to stay open or not?

Yep, just heard that as well. I think carry out and delivery are the only places that are allowed to stay open. Oh, and gyms are closed as well. Glad I have one in my basement. I'm still at work though, Baltimore County Government is open unless you want to work from home. Who knows, they may decide to close up, I know they restricted visitors to our County Court Buildings, and closed Senior and Rec Centers.

[Old Dog New Trick]

I was skiing in Colorado up until the governor closed all ski resorts in the state yesterday morning. Enjoying the great outdoors closest I ever came to the few other thousand people skiing was a lift line where six feet of separation is pretty normal with everyone wearing six feet of skis or three foot long snowboards. Most people wore a ski mask or something to keep face warm and everyone wore gloves.

While the governor closed the great outdoors, all the shops and restaurants were open for business. “Confused?”

Service industry is going to tank. Sad!

How many infected people in Colorado? Shrug?

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by rsdengler

Yep, just heard that as well. I think carry out and delivery are the only places that are allowed to stay open. Oh, and gyms are closed as well. Glad I have one in my basement. I'm still at work though, Baltimore County Government is open unless you want to work from home. Who knows, they may decide to close up, I know they restricted visitors to our County Court Buildings, and closed Senior and Rec Centers.

Yes, I absolutely trust the Grubhub or UberEats driver to wash their hands before driving from house to business to house over and over one house at a time.

What could go wrong?

ETA: the governors closing bars at time X because before time X you cannot get the virus. (Face palm)

[rsdengler]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

Yes, I absolutely trust the Grubhub or UberEats driver to wash their hands before driving from house to business to house over and over one house at a time.

What could go wrong?

ETA: the governors closing bars at time X because before time X you cannot get the virus. (Face palm)

Lol, no I don't trust them at all to wash their hands. I rather just fix my own stuff anyway, unless I have a craving for a med rare cheeseburger. Then I'd just pick it up myself.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by rsdengler

Yep, just heard that as well. I think carry out and delivery are the only places that are allowed to stay open. Oh, and gyms are closed as well. Glad I have one in my basement. I'm still at work though, Baltimore County Government is open unless you want to work from home. Who knows, they may decide to close up, I know they restricted visitors to our County Court Buildings, and closed Senior and Rec Centers.

Seems Like B-more is urging people to stay home... Just not city employees??

[InTheBlack]

37 known cases is how many actual? say 370. Doubling time 6 days. 30 days = 11,840 cases. If actual is 3700, then 118,400.

What number overloads the hospitals, affecting other critical care cases? Pick your number & work backwards to see the number of actual cases today which cross the threshold. Is that a reasonable number to believe exist?

[InTheBlack]

Baltimore closed the impound lot. But fines are frozen. Don't get towed, or looks like you are SOL for the duration. Stupid.

[rsdengler]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Seems Like B-more is urging people to stay home... Just not city employees??

I don't know about Baltimore City Government, I work for Baltimore County which is different. This is from our main Website:

County Employees

Non-Essential Employee Telework: Baltimore County has instituted telework for all non-essential employees who are able to do so.

I work in a satellite office 20 mins from Towson, so we are not at full capacity here. I know that if anyone here shows symptoms, we will be closing down; we have this "emergency plan" if that happens. As far as I know, there has been no one w/symptoms, etc. at this location or in our other facilities. But they do state if someone feels "sick" in anyway to stay home.

[GratefulCitizen]

Schools closed, large events cancelled, sports seasons suspended, workers directed to telecommute, etc.
Meanwhile, the hours of service rules for truck drivers are being suspended.

Most are being told to stay home and stay safe.
Truckers are being told to travel more and work more.

A link posted in another thread detailed what would happen if the trucks stopped moving.
The pdf it was linked to has been taken down, and similar documents are difficult to find with an Internet search.

The supply chain is more fragile than people realize.

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

The supply chain is more fragile than people realize.

The efficiency and lowered-cost of consumer goods is dependent upon a Just-in-Time supply chain mechanism. WalMart is expert in that. Problem is that companies did not have the algorithm in place or the intel to account for the surge on paper products and certain other goods. The replacements just don't exist and if they do somehow surge manufacturing or shipping on one end, the last mile delivery is scaled to handle the 'norm' not the surge.

I'm waiting as well on the next surge. Internet capacity and bandwidth demands (fixed fiber // wireless). Spring Break is providing a false lull but with an estimated 3 Million college students plus (potentially) state and local school districts expecting to transition to online environments how does that compete with business demands on network capacity during peak hours....not to mention all of the laid-off service industry workers that will most likely be doing something online whether streaming services or social media.

[Ret10Echo]

Mein Gott

HARRISBURG, Pa. (WJAC) — All Pennsylvania liquor stores have been ordered to close as COVID-19 mitigation efforts continue, the Liquor and Control Board announced Monday.

All Fine Wine & Good Spirits stores, licensee service centers and e-commerce sales will be closed indefinitely beginning at 9 p.m. Tuesday.

[InTheBlack]

as part of overall social distancing & going out in public less often.:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....12.20034660v1

Impact assessment of non-pharmaceutical interventions against COVID-19 and influenza in Hong Kong: an observational study

Benjamin J Cowling, Sheikh Taslim Ali, Tiffany W. Y. Ng, Tim K Tsang, Julian C. M Li, Min Whui Fong, Qiuyan Liao, Mike YW Kwan, So Lun Lee, Susan S. Chiu, Joseph T. Wu, Peng Wu, Gabriel M. Leung
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.12.20034660

Abstract
Background: A range of public health measures have been implemented to delay and reduce local transmission of COVID-19 in Hong Kong, and there have been major changes in behaviours of the general public. We examined the effect of these interventions and behavioral changes on the incidence of COVID-19 as well as on influenza virus infections which may share some aspects of transmission dynamics with COVID-19.

Methods:
We reviewed policy interventions and measured changes in population behaviours through two telephone surveys, on January 20-23 and February 11-14. We analysed data on laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 cases, influenza surveillance data in outpatients of all ages, and influenza hospitalisations in children. We estimated the daily effective reproduction number (R_t), for COVID-19 and influenza A(H1N1).

Findings:
COVID-19 transmissibility has remained at or below 1, indicating successful containment to date. Influenza transmission declined substantially after the implementation of social distancing measures and changes in population behaviours in late January, with a 44% (95% confidence interval, CI: 34% to 53%) reduction in transmissibility in the community, and a 33% (95% CI: 24% to 43%) reduction in transmissibility based on paediatric hospitalization rates.

In the two surveys we estimated that 74.5% and 97.5% of the general adult population wore masks when going out, and 61.3% and 90.2% avoided going to crowded places, respectively.

Implications:
Containment measures, social distancing measures and changes in population behaviour have successfully prevented spread of COVID-19.

The social distancing measures and behavioural changes led to a substantial reduction in influenza transmission in early February 2020.

However, it may be challenging to avoid fatigue and sustain these measures and population behaviours as COVID-19 continues to spread globally.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

Mein Gott

For some, das Ende.