06-13-2019, 08:10
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Great article tonyz, thanks for posting.
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Think what Mueller’s precedent of not-not-guilty would do to the American criminal-justice system, as zealous prosecutors might fish for just enough dirt on a suspect to ruin his reputation, but not find enough for an indictment, thereby exonerating their own prosecutorial failure by defaming a “guilty until proven innocent” suspect.
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I believe this tactic has been used for decades in the criminal-justice system. How many high level people have been accused of rape (years ago) and lost their position and career? How many low level people in possession of some valuable information in regards to some high level persons indiscretions have been raided by the FBI and found to have hard drives full of child porn?
These two things to my eye seem to be so common and so obviously a variation of what Mueller did. It almost seems that if one is in possession of "evidence", then it must logically follow that they must also be in possession of child porn, as if the two are inextricably linked.
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06-15-2019, 16:56
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Where does the FBI recruit from
Leftist universities and colleges so we should expect more of The Resistance in the government.
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06-15-2019, 19:54
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Great article tonyz, thanks for posting.
I believe this tactic has been used for decades in the criminal-justice system. How many high level people have been accused of rape (years ago) and lost their position and career? How many low level people in possession of some valuable information in regards to some high level persons indiscretions have been raided by the FBI and found to have hard drives full of child porn?
These two things to my eye seem to be so common and so obviously a variation of what Mueller did. It almost seems that if one is in possession of "evidence", then it must logically follow that they must also be in possession of child porn, as if the two are inextricably linked.
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Illegals weapons, rape and child porn is a common theme with many FBI stings. One instance that comes to mind is July4Patriot aka Charles Dyer. Dyer was busted by the FBI for possession of stolen M203 Grenade Launcher, he spent at least year in prison while awaiting trial and only to have the charges dismissed. Then he went home to Oklahoma were he was convicted of raping his daughter.
I have no idea whether he was guilty or not, but it all seemed kind of fishy as to how it all went down.
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Leftist universities and colleges so we should expect more of The Resistance in the government.
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We’re pretty much screwed for the immediate future. Reality won’t sit in until they run out of other people’s money to appease the zombie hoard.
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06-15-2019, 21:46
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Anybody remember the Oxbridge Communist infiltration in the UK?
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06-16-2019, 21:37
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Anybody remember the Oxbridge Communist infiltration in the UK?
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Well... I wasn't there personally when it started but its tremors were felt (and secrets betrayed & lives lost) for decades. And in some cases in MI.6 charged with investigating each other - what a gig, eh?
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06-16-2019, 22:35
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And in some cases in MI.6 charged with investigating each other - what a gig, eh?
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Well, the FBI had its own version of that with Robert Hanssen.
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Mueller thereby established a new but lunatic precedent in American jurisprudence in which a prosecutor who fails to find sufficient cause to indict a suspect nonetheless releases supposedly incriminating evidence, with a wink that the now-besmirched suspect cannot be exonerated of the alleged crimes.
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Not entirely new. I have long been bothered by the practice of naming individuals as "unindicted co-conspirators" in conspiracy cases. This seems to have the same effect of besmirching one's reputation without giving him or her the opportunity to defend themselves. Of course, I am also bothered by "perp walks" and other tactics by police agencies to besmirch reputations and potentially bias jurors before a suspect has even been indicted.
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02-16-2020, 11:41
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Andrew McCabe
On Andrew McCabe, et al...
Let me see if I’m close...high ranking federal supervisory agent/management is fired for “lack of candor” e.g., lying...
= no charges...
Flynn, Stone, others accused of lying...not only charges...but facing hard time in federal prison.
Durham had better be lining up at least some of these plotters and liars for some criminal charges...or it will appear to all but the most obtuse that some are truly above the law.
Can you imagine if these folks had actually won the 2016 presidential election?
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02-16-2020, 14:34
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The Conservative Tree House has recently posted an interesting expose on FBI actions during early stages of Trump administration.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...e/#more-183512
The FBI Corruption is Far Worse Than We Currently Imagine – President Trump Authorized His Own Surveillance…
Posted on February 13, 2020 by sundance
NOTE: Article updated 4:00pm to resolve conflict between Exec. Order 13787 / Exec. Order 13775 on DOJ succession and FISA authorities.
Last month the DOJ admitted to the FISA court that two of the four FISA warrants used against Carter Page were fraudulently obtained.
The “DOJ assesses that with respect to the applications in [April and June 2017] “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter]Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.”” (link)
However, what the DOJ did not admit publicly was how the current FBI Chief Legal Counsel, Dana Boente, participated in obtaining the April 2017 warrant. In hindsight this story explains the ongoing issues within the FBI.
The original FISA application was October 21st, 2016. The first FISA renewal was January 12, 2017 (84 days from origination) and prior to the inauguration of President Trump. The second renewal was April 7, 2017 (85 days from prior renewal). The third renewal was on June 29th, 2017 (83 days from prior renewal).
The originating FISA and first renewal were authorized by the Obama administration officials. However, it was the second renewal -now identified as fraudulent- on April 7th 2017, under the Trump administration, when the conniving FBI ran into a problem.
Here’s what happened.
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02-16-2020, 15:07
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JUSTICE: The Sense of Entitlement !
The Deep State Partially Exposed by the NON PROSECUTION of the "elites" in Congress, Federal Agencies, Law Firms, Think Tanks & insiders with connections to the Deep Staters is so blatant that the ongoing criminal conduct is continuing without any interference from DOJ, DOD, Main Stream Media and propaganda from talk show hosts. The DNC has to find a way to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders from becoming the Democrat nominee, Michael Bloomberg to the rescue because Joe Biden is failing to garner support. The next POTUS will have to be a democrat picked by the Deep State Elites or EQUAL JUSTICE may (should) LOCK THEM UP...It will be very interesting to see who will make a deal to avoid Prison by ratting/testifying against their former associates. It's possible Comey, McCabe, Strock could join Robert Hannsen in the Colorado Super-Max... Brennan & Clapper could end up like Vince Foster, Seth Rich, William Colby, Bernie Epstein...JUST THINKING...
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02-16-2020, 15:37
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On Andrew McCabe, et al...
Let me see if I’m close...high ranking federal supervisory agent/management is fired for “lack of candor” e.g., lying...
= no charges...
Flynn, Stone, others accused of lying...not only charges...but facing hard time in federal prison.
Durham had better be lining up at least some of these plotters and liars for some criminal charges...or it will appear to all but the most obtuse that some are truly above the law.
Can you imagine if these folks had actually won the 2016 presidential election?
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The rot is so deep in DC that I honestly doubt that anyone is going to be held accountable. AG Barr doesn't have the stones to amputate the diseased limbs, so it will continue to fester under the surface waiting for the right environment to reappear. Barr may not even have the man power to do what should be done. At this point Barr is concerned with COG, and he'll sacrifice Flynn and Stone to keep the .GOV ship afloat.
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