08-18-2016, 13:49
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My question is: Why are they still in Turkey, and why has it taken this bloody long to decide to move them?
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08-18-2016, 14:20
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My question is: Why are they still in Turkey, and why has it taken this bloody long to decide to move them?
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Where do you think they would be secure, and welcome?
TR
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08-18-2016, 15:17
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Where do you think they would be secure, and welcome?
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Texas? 
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08-18-2016, 15:32
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Poland? Same buffer as Romania, and next to zero Muslim migration.
Then again, the Pols don't care too much for our Muslim President, so that rules out special favors.
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08-18-2016, 15:34
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It is the policy of the United States government to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at any given facility. So
"Those who speak don't know, and those who know, don't speak."
As for the second question.
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Where do you think they would be secure, and welcome?
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I'd answer: "Israel."
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08-18-2016, 15:58
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It is the policy of the United States government to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at any given facility. So
"Those who speak don't know, and those who know, don't speak."
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I am sure that at one time that statement was very true and I wish I could believe that to be the case today however........................
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08-18-2016, 16:33
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They could have left them there with timers on.
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08-18-2016, 16:48
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They could have left them there with timers on.
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Another damn monitor ruined....
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08-18-2016, 16:52
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I'd take this story with a grain of salt ...
It is Alex Jones and his InfoWars website after all. 
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08-18-2016, 17:34
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They could have left them there with timers on.
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...again, the profit is alllllll yours.
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08-18-2016, 17:58
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They could have left them there with timers on.
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I like the way you think......... 
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08-18-2016, 21:34
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They could have left them there with timers on.
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...and leave breadcrumbs for ISIS/AQ/other variants to find them. You know those things can be finnicky. The old fuses might go off. Leave a stuxnet-type worm just for safe measure AND have Israel fingerprints all over it. They certainly have interest against nuclear-armed Syria or Iraq. Is that infowar-esque enough folks?
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08-18-2016, 19:57
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That's an excellent question that I am not really qualified to answer. Secure + welcome? That's a tough combination. It is my understanding, based on public records, that the stockpile in Turkey is all B61 bombs, correct?
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Where do you think they would be secure, and welcome?
TR
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08-18-2016, 21:48
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Nuke redeployment
First, I agree with why wait until it is OBE? I think the main consideration is what country would welcome them. Then, if they could be secure from external threat.
The joker in the deck is whoever is to become CINC. Clinton seems aware of the overall military state of readiness, The question is her willingness to accept any recommendations of the Chairman JCS. She has not shown to me an ability to use subordinates and their expertise. She does have a reputation of treating her staff with disdain. If it is Trump, he has clearly stated that the NATO has outlived its usefulness. He seems to have a feeling that our troops should withdraw from Europe. He seems to lean towards the isolationism not seen since the 1920s .He has announced that he distrusts the generals advice. He states he will build up the military to greatness again, but no specificity.
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08-21-2016, 11:02
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Russia moving to Incirlik? A new Timeshare deal?
The Russians are coming, or not? Or, are the Russians just trying to secure its southern flank before moving deeper into Ukraine? Either way the next administration had better be the A-Team. Fat chance of that.
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http://www.jewishpress.com/news/brea...se/2016/08/21/
Turkish PM Denying Russia Demanding to Use NATO Nuke Base
Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said Russia is not demanding to land its planes in the İncirlik air base in southern Turkey, as several Russian news services have claimed. “Russia had no demands to use İncirlik air base, those reports are not true,” Yildirim told foreign correspondents in Istanbul on Saturday, according to Hurriyet Daily News. However, the prime minister did agree that should Russia wish to use the base for its operations against ISIS, it would be welcome to do so. Still, Yildirim added, “Russia doesn’t need to use the base. They have bases in Syria.”
Yildirim’s statement concluded an anxiety-filled few days in which Russian news sources were announcing that Russia has been demanding that Turkey give its air force access to the NATO air base in İncirlik, which is where US and coalition air forces take off on their strikes in Syria. Located some 65 miles from the Syrian border, Incirlik is also where an estimated 50 US B-61 nuclear warheads (think 100 Hiroshimas times 50) are kept.
According to Izvestia, a Russian lawmaker named Igor Morozov said it was only a matter of time before Turkish president Erdogan hands over the NATO base at Incirlik to the Russians, to intensify the war against ISIS. “You’ll see, the next base will be İncirlik,” Morozov told Izvestia, shortly after the Kremlin had revealed that Russian bombers have been using an Iranian airbase for their attack on Syria. He predicted İncirlik would be “one more victory for Putin.”
Those statements came against the background of a report by EurActiv, a Belgian foundation focusing on European Union policies, that the US has begun to transfer its nuclear weapons stationed in Turkey to Romania, for fear of the worsening relations between Washington and Ankara.
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