Upon being corrected by a team sergeant

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by NotActuallyHard

I have been led to believe that nicknames and first names are the norm for day to day conversation between team members but I have found very little information about junior team member (read: New Guy) to team sergeant communication.

Nicknames and first names come when "they" tell you it's alright.

The rest has been covered. Now move out and draw fire.

[NotActuallyHard]

Originally Posted by miclo18d

Newbies have to prove themselves in SF too. Once they do, then they get the respect to have a discussion and not counseling.

Originally Posted by Combat Diver

Junior member at that time then address's in a professional matter. ie Rank, Name or Duty Title.

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Nicknames and first names come when "they" tell you it's alright.

These three answers are solid gold. My gratitude gentlemen, for taking the time and having the patience to provide them.

[PRB]

Nicknames etc. come if they exist.

Depends upon your Team....no one on my team called me anything but Top or MSG.

I was on the same team for 7 years and loved those guys.

Old habit.

[NotActuallyHard]

Originally Posted by PRB

Nicknames etc. come if they exist.

Thank you, very much, PRB.

Originally Posted by PRB

I was on the same team for 7 years and loved those guys.

Asked with the utmost respect and with nothing negative implied whatsoever:

Is 7 years as a team sergeant with the same team out of the ordinary and, are team sergeants regularly/often/sometimes/ever rotated to different detachments within their own group?

(if I may be permitted to ask more than one question in the same thread I would like to do so in order to not create a bunch of stupid threads and draw the attention of the Black Chinook, again.)

[PRB]

Originally Posted by NotActuallyHard

Thank you, very much, PRB.



Asked with the utmost respect and with nothing negative implied whatsoever:

Is 7 years as a team sergeant with the same team out of the ordinary and, are team sergeants regularly/often/sometimes/ever rotated to different detachments within their own group?

(if I may be permitted to ask more than one question in the same thread I would like to do so in order to not create a bunch of stupid threads and draw the attention of the Black Chinook, again.)

I was on that team for 7 years and the Team Sgt. for 4 of those years as an E7 and then after promotion to E8. It was not unusual then but may be today.
I was the Team Sgt. of another ODA later after a rotation to the SGM Acad. (went as an E8).
The Team leadership usually stays with that ODA for their complete tour/time unless something unusual happens.

[NotActuallyHard]

Originally Posted by PRB

I was on that team for 7 years and the Team Sgt. for 4 of those years as an E7 and then after promotion to E8. It was not unusual then but may be today.
I was the Team Sgt. of another ODA later after a rotation to the SGM Acad. (went as an E8).
The Team leadership usually stays with that ODA for their complete tour/time unless something unusual happens.

This is a tremendous help and again, I thank you PRB.

[scooter]

Originally Posted by PRB

I was on that team for 7 years and the Team Sgt. for 4 of those years as an E7 and then after promotion to E8. It was not unusual then but may be today.
I was the Team Sgt. of another ODA later after a rotation to the SGM Acad. (went as an E8).
The Team leadership usually stays with that ODA for their complete tour/time unless something unusual happens.

I had four years of team Sgt. time, it was considered unusual. Two years is the average, and three not that unusual either. At least, that's the current state of things.

[blue02hd]

Ask your Tm SGT.

Then do pushups.

[NotActuallyHard]

Thank you scooter and PRB.

Originally Posted by PRB

I was the Team Sgt. of another ODA later after a rotation to the SGM Acad. (went as an E8).
The Team leadership usually stays with that ODA for their complete tour/time unless something unusual happens.

Originally Posted by scooter

I had four years of team Sgt. time, it was considered unusual. Two years is the average, and three not that unusual either. At least, that's the current state of things.

The length of time an E8 will be an Operations Sergeant-

Does this mean that the average time as a team sergeant on a particular team is 2-3 years before he is assigned a new team, or that an 18Z will only be an 18Z for 2-3 years before he will have to start getting ready for SGM?

(Just my own stupid, backwards, civilian opinion but all that experience and knowledge that an E8 has at that point seems like kind of a waste if he is only allowed to be in that position for the same amount of time as an officer would be a TL. please forgive my peanut gallery commentary0

[scooter]

Originally Posted by NotActuallyHard

Does this mean that the average time as a team sergeant on a particular team is 2-3 years before he is assigned a new team, or that an 18Z will only be an 18Z for 2-3 years before he will have to start getting ready for SGM?
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That's all the time you get. You won't go to another team unless there are extenuating circumstances or there is some kind of problem and you need to move teams.

Team Sergeant is usually the first E8 job an SF guy gets, unless you are in the penalty box or there is currently no room on a team for you. After that, there are a myriad of staff and instructor jobs that need post team sergeant E8s to fill. The SGM "try-out" route is to go be a first sergeant, and or a BN/Group OPS SGT. There are 21 SF E8s in an SF BN, and one First Sergeant job. Everyone in 5th SFG who made the E8 list in the past couple of years had 1SG time. I can't speak for the other Groups. Rightly or wrongly, its usually the key discriminator. You can make SGM without it, but it is less likely.