Use of SF images

[Bettendorf]

He's talking about me. He was attacking me on another forum and threatening to contact my military chain of command. The moderators banned him for it.

There were many, many other forum members who were vouching for me but he couldn't let it drop.

You see, a buddy of 275RLTW's, on another forum, got a guy fired from his job because of something stupid the guy had posted on the interwebs. His friend got banned from that website as well.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/187...ll_effect.html


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_20/60..._Colorado.html

[275RLTW]

Originally Posted by Bettendorf

He's talking about me. He was attacking me on another forum and threatening to contact my military chain of command. The moderators banned him for it.

There were many, many other forum members who were vouching for me but he couldn't let it drop.

You see, a buddy of 275RLTW's, on another forum, got a guy fired from his job because of something stupid the guy had posted on the interwebs. His friend got banned from that website as well.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/187...ll_effect.html


http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_20/60..._Colorado.html

Since you like to post across several boards, then I will respond.

Yes, you were a concern. One of 3 that day. You jumped on a respected member in our state (a former FLEO) and I asked your class number as I had seen 2 others that day who were falsely representing themselves. Yes, you also had lots of your friends jump in (none of which I knew and being it was arfcom could not be trusted by their words), rather than simply pm me a clas number or anything else representing professionalism. Perhaps it was bad whiskey from the night before or my BS meter being pegged from others, yet your response was typical of those who are trying to hide something and thus fueled my suspicions. From the several posts you've made about this, I've seemed to take up quite a bit of real estate in your thoughts lately; much more than I've anticipated or reciprocated. Yes, I took a ban from arfcom for a discussion with a mod that he didn't like...no loss on my end and I should be grateful as I was looking for a way to avoid that cesspool. You know how to reach me if you care to respond.

[miclo18d]

FYI, if you see a user on here with a Quiet Professional moniker... They have been vetted as legit. Keep it respectable or you can add another banned membership to your resume. I can tell you it won't be drawn out like ARFCOM.

If you need references, Wally Rakow was my platoon Sgt in 3/75...

[Premsore]

I don't have a dog in this, but am I the only one who sees the irony in that last post?

Since you like to post across several boards, then I will respond.

and

From the several posts you've made about this, I've seemed to take up quite a bit of real estate in your thoughts lately; much more than I've anticipated or reciprocated.

[Joker]

Originally Posted by Premsore

I don't have a dog in this,...

You are right, so stay out of it.

[blue02hd]

275RLTW,

You now know he is vetted and a member here, while you remain a guest. If you have an issue with anyone here you should take it to private messages and work it out like grown men. We know who BETTENDORF is but not who you are.

Many of us here are also Batt Boys, so you are not impressing anyone.

DOL/RLTW
C-Co 2/75

Miclo18d, thats funny, I had Walter Rakow as my first Platoon SGT in 2/75.

[miclo18d]

Originally Posted by blue02hd

275RLTW,

You now know he is vetted and a member here, while you remain a guest. If you have an issue with anyone here you should take it to private messages and work it out like grown men. We know who BETTENDORF is but not who you are.

Many of us here are also Batt Boys, so you are not impressing anyone.

DOL/RLTW
C-Co 2/75

Miclo18d, thats funny, I had Walter Rakow as my first Platoon SGT in 2/75.

He certainly made the rounds to stay out of the regular army! I think some of his only time out of regiment was at the NCO academy at Benning.

I bumped into him at Bragg when I was in the 18d course. He was talking to his Ranger medics they were all standing at parade rest and I saw him, waved, and I yelled, "hey Sgt Rak...., uh I mean sergeant major!" He mumble something like, "Goddamned Ollie.....grumble grumble" and went on talking to the Rangers.... He was the RSM at the time, I had no idea that he had caught that gig.

[Astronomy]

Jumpin' Jeebus... Rakow. That's a name from the past. Wally Rakow was my roommate at B/2/75. Him, me, and Conan Thornhill sharing an E-5 room on the ground floor. Squad or Section Leaders all. Back when MG(Ret) Ken Bowra was our company commander. 1979-1980 time frame.

275RLTW: Although civilians appropriating SF heraldry & graphics certainly annoy me (in a merely passing way), I could care less if a Brother exercises his earned right to do the same. Or chooses to turn a profit off of it. More power to him. I'll buy his stuff. If some civy Jody wants to wear a killer t-shirt with SF logos to help himself get laid... I could care less. I'm not talking to or otherwise interacting with him anyway. 50 million commercial uniform, gear, and clothing vendors have been turning a profit off of unit heraldry, logos, keepsakes, and graphics for decades. Why get in a twist about it?

On the internet, most of us can spot a SOF poser within a few lines of conversation or BS bio. Sometimes I ignore it. Sometimes I feed them their own rope to be hung with. Depends upon whether I feel like playing cat with a captured mouse. I've mostly got better things to do. Unless they are raking in money, position, or benefits from their lies.

In my post-Army life, I don't advertise SF. I don't wear military affiliation stuff. I don't plaster my vehicles with SF unit logos. I don't present a foothold for unwanted interest or invitation for trouble to intrude from a troubled world. Learned that from some very low key SAS folks many years ago. OPSEC. Logos are for Me-Walls, PT t-shirts, Team Parties, or SF BBQs. I operated that way while I was on Active Duty and I continue that habit in my life today. I'm not interested in visually advertising my background to total strangers.

I think that after a career spent mostly deliberately wearing sterile uniforms or indigenous regalia, most SF guys could give a shit about official Army heraldry. When GEN Shinseki decided to rape 75th for their Black Berets, my serious suggestion was to just give everyone in the Army a Green Beret instead. In return, SF personnel would have been authorized to forever wear no headgear (or headgear of their choice... like cut brim boonies or fur trapper hats), comfortable civilian boots, sterile uniforms, and keep their hands in their pockets without some uniform nazi having a stroke. You'd recognize SF in garrison the same way you did downrange. By what we didn't wear. I thought it was a brilliant idea. Figure the odds.

As noted, anyone on this forum with QP under their name has been privately vetted, in person, and is known to the rest of us. How SF posers or the occasional qualified stray are handled is a private matter. Don't worry yourself about it. In other words: "At Ease In the Harness, Ranger..."

RLTW
B/2/75