Defense Secretary to Open All Combat Jobs to Women

[Mills]

Originally Posted by bubba

- Some long forgotton RI just before our graduation: "The easy part is sewing on that tab, the hardest thing you'll ever do, is EARN it, every F'n Day!"

If you are in it for you, and most assuridly those "glass ceiling breaker" types are, then they will never truly earn it, which is something that they can not even begin to understand.

The vast majority of the rest of the female of the species understands that they (women) are not built for ground combat and therefore just don't even bother.

Then, there are the 0.5% of women, who CAN do it, and guess what, they are activly recruited by people who actually NEED them in their organizations.

This entire experiment will fail if only because the 5-10 that "break down the glass celing" will QUIT long before their re-enlistment window opens, they won't like to actually EARN that tab every day, all day, come rain, blood, shit, or mud!

And then they will leave the force, with more disability than any 2 retiring SF guys, then write books, make movies, and further perpetuate the false ideology.

[Razor]

In what is definitely a complete coincidence and not at all related to the actions of the DOD during what has apparently become the department-wide "Year of the Womyn" celebration, the SECDEF looked far and wide and decided that the best qualified replacement for the outgoing NORAD & USNORTHCOM commander (4-star billet) is, again quite coincidentally, a female. Again, in no way possibly related to having female Ranger School grads, opening all direct combat jobs to women, or emplacing the first female CSM and Commandant (1-star) at West Point and female Superintendent (4-star) at USAFA, Gen Lori Robinson (USAF) is the first female nominee for a US combatant command position. Not too shabby for a career AWACS scope-dope, trainer and staff officer with, oddly, less than 1,000 flight hours. Yay diversity!

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

If I tell them I am a lesbian in a mans body do I get to use the female PT standards

Screw the standards ... ask to use the female showers.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Screw the standards ... ask to use the female showers.

Don't ask, don't tell...

and if someone complains file a discrimination lawsuit.

[joshua20]

Gentlemen, I may have just made contact with the first female to go to SF selection. E6 I believe , out of Ft.Lee. She says she got an email explaining the decision to let women in combat roles etc, and gave her a phone number to call. She called and want her to attend the class in April, pending her physical. I'm in deep cover on this one so I'm trying to extract info without blowing it. Apparently there's another female whom responded, stationed at Bragg who won't be ready for the April selection. I'll update this as I get more.

[bailaviborita]

Originally Posted by joshua20

Gentlemen, I may have just made contact with the first female to go to SF selection. E6 I believe , out of Ft.Lee. She says she got an email explaining the decision to let women in combat roles etc, and gave her a phone number to call. She called and want her to attend the class in April, pending her physical. I'm in deep cover on this one so I'm trying to extract info without blowing it. Apparently there's another female whom responded, stationed at Bragg who won't be ready for the April selection. I'll update this as I get more.

April is the target month. I've heard they have a few packets in the works as they have been "heavily recruiting"...

[PRB]

I've been watching the traffic on my friends email webring concerning all of these issues taking place in the Marine Corps...non gender specific boot camp, changes in terminology, opening of positions.
Same response there from the retired guys from GO on down to grunt.

[Box]

This was a fucking GENIUS political move.
pure genius.

With a woman running for POTUS not a single candidate is going to speak poorly about women in direct combat roles.
Not one of them will so much a breathe a word about rolling it back
Not a word.

Get one into training by spring and she will be six months into training by election day.
...then find ANYONE to get a question tossed at the republican candidate about feminizing the military and what he would do to fix it.
If the Republican candidate gets in and then roles it back the law suits and bad press will be more than he is willing to contend with because THOSE problems will hit right as his re-election bid starts to materialize.
Get the women vote in 2016 only to kick them out of Ranger Regiment and take away their Tridents and headgear?


Genius.
Game set match - mother fuckers

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by joshua20

Gentlemen, I may have just made contact with the first female to go to SF selection. E6 I believe , out of Ft.Lee. She says she got an email explaining the decision to let women in combat roles etc, and gave her a phone number to call. She called and want her to attend the class in April, pending her physical. I'm in deep cover on this one so I'm trying to extract info without blowing it. Apparently there's another female whom responded, stationed at Bragg who won't be ready for the April selection. I'll update this as I get more.

Met an E5 during Toy Drop who's planning to do the same. Actually skipped the Ranger one as she found out about SF opportunity. I am convinced there is no intention to enhance or boost SOF whatsoever, but all about "look-at-me-the-ceiling-breaker." She boasted about it too to the Dutch SGM. The look on his face was priceless. I guess with age comes wisdom as both he and I gave the politically "approved" response

I don't get how they'd tinker with selection standards. Met a squared-away 9 years veteran, 2 REP, (excellent pistolero) legionnaire today who's about to start UW. He explained gates standards are up, 55lbs instead of 45 lbs, UBRR, etc. It will take one very special, gifted, and determined XX. I hope she earns it.

[mark46th]

"If I tell them I am a lesbian in a mans body do I get to use the female PT standards" Brush Okie

I must be a lesbian. I like to talk to women, have sex with them. Hell at one time in my life, I was probably the world's toughest lesbian.

[bailaviborita]

Originally Posted by mark46th

"If I tell them I am a lesbian in a mans body do I get to use the female PT standards" Brush Okie

I must be a lesbian. I like to talk to women, have sex with them. Hell at one time in my life, I was probably the world's toughest lesbian.

Lesbians like to take things inside their body for sexual pleasure. Men who fantasize about lesbians do not necessarily take things inside their body for their sexual pleasure. I personally would differentiate between those two categories...

[Razor]

Originally Posted by frostfire

I guess with age comes wisdom as both he and I gave the politically "approved" response.

You mean, "Aw, that's so cute. Bless your little heart, Sweetie."?

[sinjefe]

Here's another thought. How many men will now be trying out SFQC (as well as Ranger School and the RR) who would never have done so before this. Who think, "if a girl can do this......"? The quality of those that attend, especially male, will now drop.

[Old Dog New Trick]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

Here's another thought. How many men will now be trying out SFQC (as well as Ranger School and the RR) who would never have done so before this. Who think, "if a girl can do this......"? The quality of those that attend, especially male, will now drop.

Kinda takes the "special" out of Special Forces. I think they are going to have to come up with a new name. Also Last Hard Class needs to trademark his user name before it becomes the Last Class.

Not to denigrate the Special Olympics but it's not quite the caliber of the Olympics. But then again an Olympic Decathlon Gold Medalist was a woman trapped in a mans body.

[bailaviborita]

No one talks about the effect this will have on recruitment. We are having issues now- worse than normal....