10-23-2015, 15:11
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Green Beret John Smith's Excellent Adventure
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Clearly he had to eat the messenger pigeons that he was going to use to communicate his observations....
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That's just so wrong..... but then again I wonder what recipe he used? 
Little birds are telling me that "Green Beret" John Smith has gone quiet.... I wonder if the green beret sniper is lost again?
(And for the really funny part, we are some of the best navigators on the planet and as a sniper, double that ability. This is what makes his "story" just that more funny. )
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10-24-2015, 19:32
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Lost??? John Smith
Well the newspaper now has statement that due to questions of story, that further efforts made to re-contact John Smith.
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10-24-2015, 20:31
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Another JOHN SMITH??
I was cruising google for JOHN SMITH. I got a hit on a football coach who had claimed 3 year tour as Special Forces. Three years/SF seems impractical.
http://www.hornetsports.com/informat...min/smith_john
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10-24-2015, 21:04
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3yr tour = SF Baby
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10-24-2015, 23:04
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Based on the time line, he would have had to entered the Army before 1970 at least four years and probably five before he left to go back to school and earn his bachelor's ... that means enlisting (or being drafted), going through BCT, AIT then OCS then on to Airborne school and SFOC as an officer before serving a three year stint on an ODA. Since he would have had to have been Vol-Indef then the only way he could have left active duty would have been because of a service-connected disability because the Viet Nam RIF actions didn't begin until 1973, although early outs were offered to SF officers with Reserve commissions as early as 1972. All in all, that would have him entering service no later than 1964-65; had he stayed the enlisted route it would have been much longer to qualify and an even earlier entry date (BPED). Bottom line: given the information I would have a tendency to think that his claim is bogus because that would put him in his seventies and he doesn't look that old ... but then I'm pretty much a skeptic about what I see in biographies like that ....
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10-24-2015, 23:34
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Well the newspaper now has statement that due to questions of story, that further efforts made to re-contact John Smith.
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This means they re-read the story and now see the humor..... it was supposed to go in the "fiction" part of the newspaper. 
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10-24-2015, 23:39
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Damn, MIA again. Well at least the phones are more accessible these days. Maybe someone should call his Mom.
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10-25-2015, 03:31
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You have to question the name John Smith. We had a National Rugby captain of the same name and I still don't believe he won the World Cup in 2007 under his real name.
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10-25-2015, 09:37
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John Smith, you are a No-Go at this navigation station.
Also, He's not returning calls from his Red Cross super, or the regional director either. The Director called me.
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10-25-2015, 09:50
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Based on the time line, he would have had to entered the Army before 1970 at least four years and probably five before he left to go back to school and earn his bachelor's ... that means enlisting (or being drafted), going through BCT, AIT then OCS then on to Airborne school and SFOC as an officer before serving a three year stint on an ODA. Since he would have had to have been Vol-Indef then the only way he could have left active duty would have been because of a service-connected disability because the Viet Nam RIF actions didn't begin until 1973, although early outs were offered to SF officers with Reserve commissions as early as 1972. All in all, that would have him entering service no later than 1964-65; had he stayed the enlisted route it would have been much longer to qualify and an even earlier entry date (BPED). Bottom line: given the information I would have a tendency to think that his claim is bogus because that would put him in his seventies and he doesn't look that old ... but then I'm pretty much a skeptic about what I see in biographies like that ....
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I didn't see anything in his bio to suggest the he served as an officer.
SF baby was a 3 year enlistment. He could have enlisted in June 1966...BCT, AIT, BAC, SFQC, served in group, ETS'd. June '69 and been back on the streets in plenty of time for the 1970 college baseball season.
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10-25-2015, 11:21
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As many times
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....SF baby was a 3 year enlistment. He could have enlisted in June 1966...BCT, AIT, BAC, SFQC, served in group, ETS'd. June '69 and been back on the streets in plenty of time for the 1970 college baseball season.
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As many times as this comes up on the board, at least a couple of times a year, people still forget about the 3 year SF Enlistment Option.
No recycles and straight through and a weapons or engineer troop would be on a team in under a year. Plenty of guys served and got out.
BUT - any school worth going to had a TIS requirement meaning you had to extend or reenlist. The command loved to dangle those schools in front of young troops getting near ETS.
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10-25-2015, 11:32
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Quote:
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I didn't see anything in his bio to suggest the he served as an officer.
SF baby was a 3 year enlistment. He could have enlisted in June 1966...BCT, AIT, BAC, SFQC, served in group, ETS'd. June '69 and been back on the streets in plenty of time for the 1970 college baseball season.
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I was suggesting that as the shortest possible time line. The pre-qual training wouldn't be part of the 'three years in Special Forces' so that would put him entering the service years before 1966. My interpretation of the 3 years is time served on an ODA ....
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10-25-2015, 17:58
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After carefully reading his story and ruminating (with a bourbon) I'm afraid that I must conclude that it is, in the vernacular of the uncouth, bullshit. 
I believe my opinion would be the same without the bourbon.
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10-25-2015, 19:26
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After carefully reading his story and ruminating (with a bourbon) I'm afraid that I must conclude that it is, in the vernacular of the uncouth, bullshit.
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I concur, but would substitute Scotch for the bourbon ....
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