07-02-2015, 19:07
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Gunman at Cross Creek Mall
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07-02-2015, 22:04
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Open carry knucklehead, or suicide by cop who changed his mind?
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07-03-2015, 06:01
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Pete,
You are correct, the entrances to the mall portions are posted no firearms... However if you enter a store, and then get into the mall through the store entrance you are G2G.
Glad this was posted, now I need to train to shoot bad guys wearing body armor. A good wake up call to all I suppose.
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07-03-2015, 07:10
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In my experience open carry people are a little off and attention seeking. I get their point, support their point and their right to do so but, in my estimation, they are odd. In fact, the law should not distinguish between open and concealed carry; both should be legal without permits. The guy wearing body armor changes the "flavor" of this situation slightly. Not sure if he committed a crime or not maybe trespassing...... or if he had something more nefarious in mind.
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07-03-2015, 07:42
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What a FRIGGN IDIOT...had a bag full of mags (well several at least) according to the news, and was going for a "photo shoot"??? at the mall???...what a friggin maroon.....
SA FAIL..
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07-03-2015, 07:53
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Originally Posted by glebo
What a FRIGGN IDIOT...had a bag full of mags (well several at least) according to the news, and was going for a "photo shoot"??? at the mall???...what a friggin maroon.....
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If he is charged with trespassing he will no doubt get his photo shoot.
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07-03-2015, 08:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toaster
You are correct, the entrances to the mall portions are posted no firearms... However if you enter a store, and then get into the mall through the store entrance you are G2G.
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I think you are wrong and the policy applies to the entire property IAW the management company's policy posted on their web-site.
"This shopping center is private property and no rights shall accrue to the public by virtue of the public’s entry into this mall or on mall property."
"20.Carrying or displaying weapons of any kind except those carried by certified law enforcement officers in the performance of their duties."
http://www.crosscreekmall.com/code-of-conduct
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07-03-2015, 09:02
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Originally Posted by Richard
I think you are wrong and the policy applies to the entire property IAW the management company's policy posted on their web-site.
"This shopping center is private property and no rights shall accrue to the public by virtue of the public’s entry into this mall or on mall property."
"20.Carrying or displaying weapons of any kind except those carried by certified law enforcement officers in the performance of their duties."
http://www.crosscreekmall.com/code-of-conduct
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But legally if it's not posted on each entrance it's a gray area. Never seen the code of conduct displayed inside the mall itself and many people don't have internet.
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07-03-2015, 09:34
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Originally Posted by alelks
But legally if it's not posted on each entrance it's a gray area. Never seen the code of conduct displayed inside the mall itself and many people don't have internet.
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By law it has to be posted at all entry points to an establishment in clear view and legeable to the public. If an anchor store does not have it posted on their street entrance and you enter there then the mall has to have it posted where the public enters their facility from the anchor store.
If that is the situation he better get a good lawyer to exploit that failure.
I too have found the majority of the Open carry people to be pushing their agenda in ways that make them look like cooks. I carry every day and never get challenged as to my status.
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07-03-2015, 11:19
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I too have found the majority of the Open carry people to be pushing their agenda in ways that make them look like cooks.
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 OMG! Not cooks!
Around here, most of the OC guys wear cowboy guns in tooled holsters. I think that's fine and not really a statement of an agenda.
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07-03-2015, 11:27
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We all agree the guy is an idiot. What law did he break?
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Don't worry the racist and corrupt Fayetteville police dept. will make something up.
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07-03-2015, 11:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brush Okie
We all agree the guy is an idiot. What law did he break?
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Take your pick ....
http://www.ncdoj.com/getdoc/32344299...-gun-Laws.aspx
Talk about a set of "FVCKED UP" firearms laws ....
... and I thought Colorado was getting bad. You folks out there in NC surely are hamstrung, in several areas where privately owned firearms is concerned.
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07-03-2015, 13:57
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Originally Posted by PSM
 OMG! Not cooks!
Around here, most of the OC guys wear cowboy guns in tooled holsters. I think that's fine and not really a statement of an agenda.
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Yes Auto correct sucks...
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