05-17-2015, 13:43
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But, when they screw up it's a Special Forces or Special Operations raid..... 
So riddle me this, you have intel that Abu Sayyaf is positively at that location (same goes for Bin Laden), why not drop a 2000lb JDAM and then go and do BDA after? Why does the United States risk soldiers lives when a 2000 pounder can do the same thing with no risk?
I think I know why..... 
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05-17-2015, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
But, when they screw up it's a Special Forces or Special Operations raid.....
So riddle me this, you have intel that Abu Sayyaf is positively at that location (same goes for Bin Laden), why not drop a 2000lb JDAM and then go and do BDA after? Why does the United States risk soldiers lives when a 2000 pounder can do the same thing with no risk?
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Because there are no headlines in that...no 'Look what I ordered'... 'am I not gutsy' etc......
He's doing very little and this fills the news vacuum for a week....
The boys did great tho and you can't beat reality training.
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05-17-2015, 15:17
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I agree with TS
JDAM's win wars..
If and only IF it was a major snatch,, send the boys.
Then JDAM the reminders..
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05-17-2015, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
But, when they screw up it's a Special Forces or Special Operations raid.....
So riddle me this, you have intel that Abu Sayyaf is positively at that location (same goes for Bin Laden), why not drop a 2000lb JDAM and then go and do BDA after? Why does the United States risk soldiers lives when a 2000 pounder can do the same thing with no risk? |
Information is slowly coming out, but I understand they gathered up a lot of computer equipment. Sounds like it could be an intelligence treasure trove. Can't get that with a JDAM.
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05-17-2015, 18:20
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Well done, gents.
Now let's not say anymore about it.
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I would offer that too much has already been leaked...
Last edited by Five-O; 05-18-2015 at 03:59.
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05-17-2015, 19:14
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Information is slowly coming out, but I understand they gathered up a lot of computer equipment. Sounds like it could be an intelligence treasure trove. Can't get that with a JDAM.
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If this was the guy buying and selling - might there not be a trove of transactions to followup on - via JDAM?
Consequences of doing "business" w ISIS. Sometimes a deal just blows up...
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05-17-2015, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Dean Jarvis
Information is slowly coming out, but I understand they gathered up a lot of computer equipment. Sounds like it could be an intelligence treasure trove. Can't get that with a JDAM.
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I'm sure he had a T1 internet connection from his mud hut.... and I know we scored big on bin ladens computer porn stash too.
Yeah, I know intel, how much intel do you get from a dead man? You're telling me the "best in the world" could not take one gray-haired raghead alive?
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05-17-2015, 20:16
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I am happy that all the good guys are safe, there are some jihadists taking a dirt nap, and a captive of those uncivilized scum has been freed. Thanks to all those who head into harms way. God bless them. 
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05-18-2015, 09:33
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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004
Obviously I am not any expert on counter-terrorism, and generally I would agree, however I would figure making such a raid public knowledge would be good for psychological warfare purposes against ISIS?
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The enemies that we would want to know, would hear about it without or TV media broadcasting it. I, too, vote for silence on the matter.
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05-18-2015, 13:31
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Whoever it was that planned (not the Zero) and conducted the raid: Well done! And thank you!
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