Ebola: "Out of Control in West Africa"

[LarryW]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

More warm and fuzzy about our gift from the heart of darkness.

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-persp...otection-ebola

There is critical truth in this article.

Everyone please read.

[sinjefe]

Originally Posted by LarryW

There is critical truth in this article.

Everyone please read.

So, why is it important if I am not a healthcare worker?

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

So, why is it important if I am not a healthcare worker?

Maybe due to math?

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[Go Devil]

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[sinjefe]

Those patients are:

1) Reporter in Africa reporting on Ebola (transported to the US)

and

2) A healthcare worker

So, I guess you have officially become part of the Great Ebola Scare of 2014?

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

Those patients are:

1) Reporter in Africa reporting on Ebola (transported to the US)

and

2) A healthcare worker

So, I guess you have officially become part of the Great Ebola Scare of 2014?

1. The deceased individual that came from Africa.
A. His physical contacts.
2. Healthcare worker.
A. Her physical contacts.

[sinjefe]

Originally Posted by Go Devil

1. The deceased individual that came from Africa.
A. His physical contacts.
2. Healthcare worker.
A. Her physical contacts.

.....like I said. The more we talk about the virtually non-existent Ebola threat, the less people are focused on real issues in the upcoming elections.

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

.....like I said. The more we talk about the virtually non-existent Ebola threat, the less people are focused on real issues in the upcoming elections.

There is no voting our way out of the rash of affairs covering this nation.

We are outnumbered.

[Team Sergeant]

If you like your Ebola you can keep it!!!!!

Should be the campaign slogan of the liberal/democratic/progressive/socialist party.

[LarryW]

Originally Posted by sinjefe

So, why is it important if I am not a healthcare worker?

'Course you know that this disease won't discriminate based on vocation. The protocols being followed are marginally effective at best, and the US is supposed to be the best of the best in dealing with this crap. No telling how good the protocols are in other 3rd world countries who have wonderful travel freedoms with the US.

But, your point is well taken, sir. Son and I had a warm kitchen table discussion on this subject less than 2 hrs ago. I agreed with his point that all the hype about Ebola and ISIS in an election year keeps everyone's attention away from the shithead behind the curtain or the duffer in the WH. And, of course there's not a damned thing I can do about either of them. Guess all I can do is keep alert and know when to hunker down and when to bug out. I have enough rice and red beans to last me 'til potato harvest next year.

[mugwump]

Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc

Your expectation of protocol adherence and my daily observations are unlikely to be concordant.

Are you proposing we relocate any patient that may have ebola (which starts with very nonspecific symptoms) to a BSL4 facility? What means of transport and precautions used during transport? Feasibility and cost are entirely preventative.

No. What I'm saying is there is a gross disconnect between the protocol that is in place to prevent Ebola infection in a lab setting and the airy-fairy Ebola PPE "guidelines" that have been proven to be ineffective in stopping even C. Diff.

I've read this afternoon that they're proposing to assign an expert team leader to each hospital with a confirmed case. One major responsibility will be training and supervision of donning and doffing PPE. I've also heard from a guy working at a BSL3 facility that the CDC is scrambling to put together a protocol that includes "shower stations" and spraying the healthcare worker with an antiviral spray before removing the PPE. Steps in the right direction.

The current PPE removal procedure is shown below. Hooking off a glove with an exposed finger after suctioning an airway and cleaning up diarrhea seems a teensy bit cavalier. Obviously they're going to be scrubbing like mad, but still...

[mugwump]

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So, I guess you have officially become part of the Great Ebola Scare of 2014?[/QUOTE]

I agree that the hype is overblown. The average person has little to fear from Ebola. Healthcare workers, unfortunately, do have legitimate concerns.

Most of us visit a hospital at some point, and they're already a focal point of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. We don't need to be contending with a dangerous virus as well.

The problem is that this disease is likely to become endemic in the third world and there will be serious social and economic consequences.

Imagine the media if this was a high-mortality influenza and there were corpses in the streets.

[The Reaper]

The CDC Director just stated that all you need to wear for personal protective gear in an Ebola patient's treatment is a surgical mask and one pair of gloves.

Does he know something that we don't?

TR

[Go Devil]

As for drinking the cool aid, I don't watch TV; I turned off my cable at least 10 years ago. As far as news goes, I do not trust any information on this issue except for legitimate first hand Studies which I have been providing on this site.
My concern is that this virus is surviving outside of it's origin in an environment that is foreign to its nursery.
This virus is not like any flue that our medical environment has lost the appreciative risk for. This virus is indiscriminate of age and physical robustness.
A correlation could be similar to the Emerald Ash Borer transferred to our soil:
The American population would have a greater risk of susceptibility versus an organism that has evolved at 5 degrees above the equator in Africa.

In my opinion, this situation supersedes political rivalry and political correctness, and should be addressed in a black and white manner.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

The CDC Director just stated that all you need to wear for personal protective gear in an Ebola patient's treatment is a surgical mask and one pair of gloves.

Does he know something that we don't?

TR

He has said a lot of things in the past few weeks....