Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher

[GratefulCitizen]

The State of Nevada should exercise imminent domain power and kick everybody off of the land.
Including the turtles.

Such an action would reveal the true motives of all the involved parties.

[Oldrotorhead]

Here is someone adding fuel to the fire. FWIW I don't think this is the start of a second revolution.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04...rville-nevada/

An area just outside of the little town of Bunkerville, Nevada, with a population of around a thousand people, may go down in history. This little spot in the desert may be compared with Lexington, Massachusetts, the site of the “shot heard round the world” – the first shot fired in the American Revolution. Because it looks like the second American Revolution may start there…and soon.

Yesterday, The Daily Sheeple reported that tensions were running high outside of Bunkerville. It seems that the US government, in all of their infinite wisdom, has declared war on a cattle rancher named Cliven Bundy.

In a stand-off that has been likened to Ruby Ridge and Waco, the federal government has now deployed armed agents in a case of what the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has deemed “trespass cattle,” escalating a 20-year battle over grazing rights and what actually constitutes “public land” use in Southern Nevada.

Cliven Bundy, a 67-year-old rancher says his family has worked the 600,000-acre Gold Butte area since the late 1800s and that they were there well before the government’s Land Management Bureau ever came along. (source)

Armed federal officers have arrived to steal Bundy’s cattle and close down the land he is using. What’s more, they have declared a zone around the area to be free of the restrictions of the Constitution, specifically, the First Amendment right to assemble and speak freely. They’d like to keep their reprehensible actions quiet and out of the public eye. It’s really difficult to mow down a bunch of protesters ala Waco with the whole world watching.

Yesterday, tensions began to rise even further and numerous protestors were tazed and assaulted. (You can see the actions of those brave BLM officers on this video HERE).

It looks like tensions will rise even further because Americans have had enough.

Militias have been mobilized. It’s going to get real.

Bundy may be facing down a bunch of armed federal thugs but he’s going to be backed up by militia members from across the country.

This is the day that Patriots have been talking about and training for. They will not stand down.

CBS reports that militias from Texas, Montana, Utah, New Hampshire, and Florida will be standing with Bundy against the Bureau of Land Management.

If you aren’t a combatant, this doesn’t mean that you can’t participate in this revolt against tyranny. This is a call to action.

Here are the pertinent email addresses and phone numbers:

Bureau Of Land Management Phone Number: (202) 208-3801
Brian Sandoval Email Contact Form- http://gov.nv.gov/Contact/Governor/
Brian Sandoval – Carson City Phone # - (775) 684-5670
Brian Sandoval Las Vegas Phone # -(702) 486-2500
Senator Dean Heller Contact Form -
Phone #’s For Heller – Reno: 775-686-5770/ Las Vegas: 702-388-6605/ Washington: 202-224-6244
Sheriff Douglas Gillespi - (702) 828-3231 or (702) – 828 – 3111
Email: Sheriff@lvmpd.com

(source)

Share information in support of these people who refuse to stand idly by while theft, violence, and tyranny occurs at the hands of the government. If we all spread the word, there is no way that another Ruby Ridge or Waco can quietly occur. We can combat the disinformation spouted by the mainstream media by publishing REAL photos, REAL videos, and REAL accounts of what is happening. We can keep the communication open and tell the world what the United States government is doing to its own people.

Share this and other stories through email, through social media, through links in the comments sections of mainstream news sites. Whatever you do, don’t wait for someone else to take action. Now is the time to speak up for liberty. Make this story too viral for the mainstream to ignore. Do not allow these brave people staring down the barrel of a gun to do so without our support.

The Bureau of Land Management has picked up a snake by the tail, and it looks like that snake is going to bite.

[Dean Jarvis]

Brush has a point. The rancher has been paying Nevada land use but not the Federal Government. What you're seeing from the reaction (or some might say over reaction) of the people is due to a history of the Federal Governments land grab out west.

You might recall when Pres. Clinton established the Grand Staircase Escalante. This also forced ranchers and their cattle off the public lands that they had been using for generations. The BLM went so far as to round up all the cattle and move them to Salina, a town about 100 miles from Escalante to auction them off. We're talking about the BLM taking the ranchers cattle and selling them before any due process. The people from Escalante showed up at the auction with cattle trailers and started loading them up. The BLM told the local sheriff to stop them. He asked what do you want me to do shoot them?

I work in the international shipping business. Soon after the Kaiparowits Plateau was closed I received calls to move Coal Hanlding Equipment to Indonesia to be used in filling ships that would tranport the coal to China.

Note the following:

A large part of America's energy dependence on foreign sources can be traced to Sept. 18, 1996, when President Bill Clinton stood on the edge of the Grand Canyon on the Arizona side and signed an executive proclamation making 1.7 million acres of Utah a new national monument.

Why would he dedicate a Utah monument while standing in Arizona? Well, this federal land grab was done without any consultation with the governor of Utah or any member of the Utah congressional delegation or any elected official in the state. The unfriendly Utah natives might have spoiled his photo-op.

The state already had six national monuments, two national recreation areas and all or part of five national forests. Three-quarters of Utah already was in federal hands. Still, the land grab was sold as a move to protect the environment.

At the time, the Clintons were worried that Ralph Nader's presence on the ballot in a few Western states would draw green votes from Clinton in a race that promised to be close after the GOP retook Congress two years earlier.

In fact, the declaration of 1.7 million Utah acres as a national monument, thereby depriving an energy-starved U.S. up to 62 billion tons of environmentally safe low-sulfur coal worth $1.2 trillion and minable with minimal surface impact, was a political payoff to the family of James Riady.

He's the son of Lippo Group owner Mochtar Riady. James was found guilty of — and paid a multimillion dollar fine for — funneling more than $1 million in illegal political contributions through Lippo Bank into various American political campaigns, including Bill Clinton's presidential run in 1992.

Clinton took off the world market the largest known deposit of clean-burning coal. And who owned and controlled the second-largest deposit in the world of this clean coal? The Indonesian Lippo Group of James Riady. It is found and strip-mined on the Indonesian island of Kalimantan.

The Utah reserve contains a kind of low-sulfur, low-ash and therefore low-polluting coal that can be found in only a couple of places in the world. It burns so cleanly that it meets the requirements of the Clean Air Act without additional technology.

"The mother of all land grabs," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said at the time. He has called what was designated as the Grande Staircase of the Escalante National Monument the "Saudi Arabia of coal."

When Clinton signed the proclamation, he promised to exchange other federal lands for the land that was taken. But a fair exchange was impossible, Hatch said, since no other land in Utah had a trillion dollars worth of clean coal.

Rep. James Hansen, R-Utah, pointed out that a large portion of the coal-rich Kaiparowits Plateau within the monument belonged to the children of Utah. When Utah became a state in 1896, about 220,000 acres were set aside for development, and a trust fund was created to collect and hold all the revenues directly for the benefit of schools.

Margaret Bird, trust officer for the fund, said that because the land will not be developed, the schools stand to lose as much as $1 billion over the next 50 years. Phyllis Sorensen, head of the Utah chapter of the National Education Association, called Clinton's action a "felonious assault" and "stealing from the schoolchildren."

Stealing from children to reward Indonesian billionaires. How pathetic.

[Bob45nm]

A couple sites to explain what the uproar is all about.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...s-2834896.html

[mark46th]

I agree with JJ_BPK. I smell Harry Reid. It is not a very well kept secret that Harry Reid grabs land at every opportunity...

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by mark46th

I agree with JJ_BPK. I smell Harry Reid. It is not a very well kept secret that Harry Reid grabs land at every opportunity...

Funny you should mention that ...

These stories have been popping up all this afternoon.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Funny you should mention that ...

These stories have been popping up all this afternoon.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen...f-bundy-ranch/

YGBSM - Alex Jones, Mr Innuendo and America's Conspiracy Theory K-Mart. There's a confirmed E5 source.

As for this so-called 'land grab' - this case has been on-going for two decades, and everything I read from sources other than the blogosphere's expectedly hyperbolic OMGOMGOMG self-proclaimed real 'merican defend the hearth bloviating say what is happening right now has to do with Mr Bundy's not complying with two separate court orders in regards to his family's issues with the BLM and the public lands he's been using.

I'm sure we'll find out at some point and it'll be interesting - or maybe not so much.

Richard

[MtnGoat]

You can touch this with a 5' pole. Henry Ried and his son is 110% behind this.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/sho...anch-standoff/

They pushed two years ago for the Nevada Land Commision to sell public land to a Chinesee ECC Solar company.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...on-Nevada-Deal

As someone said, follow the money. Nevada needs to be thrown in jail.

[Golf1echo]

Harry Reid is becoming the poster child of what is wrong with government in this country, it is all becoming very transparent. The BLM Head, Harry's Son, The Chinese, on and on...We have come along way from a congressional inquiry, no this is a Powerful Senator creating his own Fiefdom and ruling it himself...The Libs are cashing in and the left thought they had their interests at heart, darn that Nancy Pelosi she is still got more money than Harry...

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/polit.../nancy-pelosi/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/348379478...#sp=show-clips

http://video.foxnews.com/v/347318076...#sp=show-clips

Put in the context of the Federal Government owns about 90% of Nevada... Maybe that is the problem

View of one of the plants in question, from aprox. 30,000'

[awisewon]

Harry Reid an his sons law firm are neck deep in the Bundy Ranch mess along with a Company from China they want to Build Solar an wind power of course there is different stories being told. Also this Ryan Payne seems to be not who he says and appears to be a fraud not a Army Ranger he claimed to be and so far by the looks of it has Cliven Bundy fooled which that is what liars do fool people and its this Patne dude and his side Kick Buda or whatever they call him that seem to be provoking more than defusing anything so its anyones guess how this is going to turn out,

[pcfixer]

Originally Posted by Bob45nm

A couple sites to explain what the uproar is all about.



http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...s-2834896.html

Very good information on who own's the property. '

http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-con...s-2834896.html

The following statement is allegedly from Shiree Bundy Cox, a daughter of Cliven and Carol Bundy. She explains the land allotment that her Great Grandpa, Grandpa and Dad paid for many years ago. She said her father paid his range fee for many years, until the money began being used against the ranchers in the area. She indicates that other ranchers left because the BLM bought-them out, using money that could have been ranging fees. Below her letter is information on how government became involved in “managing” grazing, under the “National System of Public Lands,” and how in 2011 the BLM changed their privacy policy regarding those who graze on “allotments,” But look at this quote (the way it used to be in America):

The rights to the land use are called preemptive rights. [which Cliven Bundy has cited.]
Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the Bureau of Land Management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

JMHO as I'm not a lawyer. "Ex Post Facto"

No...ex post facto Law shall be passed. ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 3

[The Reaper]

I strongly suspect that this isn't over yet.

TR

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I strongly suspect that this isn't over yet.

TR

I read somewhere that Bill Clinton signed something where if say 600,000 acres were used for something like a wind farm, then the .GOV had to return 600,000 acres to natural habitat.....which in turn allows the .GOV to confiscate land as needed.

From what I have read it would appear this is an on going problem between ranchers and the BLM in several states, so in a manner of speaking we may have just witnessed the first shot in a war or sorts.

[PSM]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I strongly suspect that this isn't over yet.

TR

Reid agrees with you: http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/st...14I5GhESg.cspx

They'll be back after the election. And, with a better plan. I hope the cowboys are adjusting their strategy, also.

Pat

[akv]

I don't known the history or details of Mr. Bundy's differences with the BLM.

In hindsight it makes sense, if the decision to pullback the BLM came from above, an administration that wasn't willing to enforce a red line it drew on WMD in Syria or impose any meaningful sanctions on Putin for invading Ukraine, was never going to risk the spreading budding images of big government pushing around middle aged ladies or imagine the media storm of federal agents in gunfights with American civilians, not from some isolated cult, but instead from different parts of the country who felt there was enough injustice to stand with Bundy.

However despite differences of opinion on Mr. Bundy's arguments; the question remains for the anti 2nd amendment crowd, did the BLM pull back here because they realized they were wrong, and thus would have done the same if the protesters where unarmed and just singing Kumbaya? Or was it the calculus of an armed citizenry having the tools to force the government to reconsider the risk/reward of their position and response? IMHO the latter, but I doubt this is done yet for anyone involved including the turtles...