01-17-2014, 08:35
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Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland
Apparently merely possessing a CCW licence is a warrant for interrogation, search and seizure in some unfriendly states.
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According to Kally and John (but not MTAP, which, pending investigation, could not comment), what happened next went like this:
Ten minutes later he’s back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”
“At home in my safe,” John answers.
“Don’t move,” says the officer.
Now he’s at the passenger’s window. “Your husband owns a gun,” he says. “Where is it?”
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http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson...land-20140112/
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It turns out that when you register your weapon as a CCW holder you get flagged and tagged in the system. And, apparently this crosses over state lines, because the Transportation Authority Officer who pulled Mr. Filippidis over did so because he suspected there was a firearm in the car. That’s it – there was no probable cause of wrong doing and no other possible reason this car should have been pulled over.
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http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...ither_01162014
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01-17-2014, 08:43
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The wife certainly didn't help...
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01-17-2014, 09:06
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Maryland Transportation Cop...driver prolly lucky a mag dump wasn't visited on his ass...
...good thing driver did not have a dog in that vehicle...
Perhaps more to this story (typical poor reporting IIRC KEL-TEC makes a .380 not a .38 semiauto pistol).
ETA link to MDTA - "The Maryland Transportation Authority (MDTA) is an independent agency responsible for managing, operating and improving the State's toll facilities."
http://www.mdta.maryland.gov
Given this agency's mission...if...the story is basically as reported this stop appears to be substantial overreach...at a minimum. Now, if a couple of lanes on a bridge or in a tunnel are closed -- look for a national news feeding frenzy...oh wait...this is a blue state...
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01-17-2014, 15:15
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So Florida must have made it a point to share this man's CCW status with the Maryland brown shirt thugs. Is this what we can all expect from our respective states should Maryland call running our plates and registration? F*** Maryland if I can avoid driving through it I will.
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01-17-2014, 18:18
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So Florida must have made it a point to share this man's CCW status with the Maryland brown shirt thugs. Is this what we can all expect from our respective states should Maryland call running our plates and registration? F*** Maryland if I can avoid driving through it I will.
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More likely the MDTA representative communicated with and put in a request to the proper authority in FL.
Note the length of the tail and the stop.
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01-17-2014, 18:58
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He was traveling on a major highway in an SUV during the holiday season and he had Florida plates. The cop saw "drug runner". 
There was a legitimate reason for the stop if there was information transmitted to a dispatcher and several other officers responded. I am not defending the cop in the least, but there is more to this story than we are getting.
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01-17-2014, 19:18
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Sorry. Didn't see this post. I posted under the 2nd Amendment thread. 
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01-17-2014, 20:28
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Driving while...
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He was traveling on a major highway in an SUV during the holiday season and he had Florida plates. The cop saw "drug runner". ......
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Driving while Florida?
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01-17-2014, 20:48
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Sorry folks but not surprised in one bit. The Trans police patrol pretty much everywhere and ALWAYS have someone pulled over by BWI.
Cell phone use while driving is now illegal too...unless your a cop, which are by far the worst offenders.
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01-17-2014, 21:30
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I know guys here on Bragg that will not drive through Maryland just because of this. Was talked about just before block leave. Like one guy said, best look at the states you're driving through to make sure you can with a weapon and what their laws are.
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01-17-2014, 21:37
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Second point is, once you get a CCW license don't you go into a federal record that law enforcement can "tap into"?
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01-17-2014, 21:49
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Second point is, once you get a CCW license don't you go into a federal record that law enforcement can "tap into"?
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Depends on the State or the County. In Colorado, permits are shall issue by County. Only liberal and RINO sheriffs report higher.
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01-18-2014, 12:44
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Depends on the State or the County. In Colorado, permits are shall issue by County. Only liberal and RINO sheriffs report higher.
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Always wondered if states had to submit CCW Appts to some database. Just like our drivers licenses are open to every state. Along those lines.
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01-18-2014, 13:01
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Always wondered if states had to submit CCW Appts to some database. Just like our drivers licenses are open to every state. Along those lines.
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Here's a great site to show what the various laws are in each State, as well as which State's honor and recognize CCWs from other States.
Just hit which State you're interested in ....
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
Here's the one for Colorado ...
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/colorado.pdf
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01-18-2014, 19:41
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Driving while Florida?
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You betcha!
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