Legalizing pot makes Mexican Cartels even more dangerous.

mojaveman · 01-08-2014, 15:49

The growing movement to legalize marajuana is radically altering the way Mexican drug cartels do business, forcing them to seek other revenue streams through increased illegal activity.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/legali...182600895.html

Dusty · 01-08-2014, 16:54

Sounds like they're being victimized.

Oldrotorhead · 01-08-2014, 17:57

Maybe they will start a price war with the "legal" dealers. I can see the stoners broken down on the interstates on their way to CO already and with the Cartels changing their business model that State may become very interesting.

Richard · 01-08-2014, 17:59

Meanwhile in Colorado...

Richard

**The Reaper** · 01-08-2014, 19:02

Like I said, second and third order effects.

TR

echoes · 01-08-2014, 19:50

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Like I said, second and third order effects.

TR

TR Sir,

A quick question, as I saw on the News about a drug dealer who tortured alive an informant, and kept him alive while drilling holes in his head, just for the sheer fact that the drug dealer wanted him to suffer.

Where do we as a Nation with able bodied soldiers, put up the line, and go after these satans roaming the earth?

Holly

Streck-Fu · 01-08-2014, 20:52

Evil men will do evil things. I am of the belief that, like alcohol prohibition, eliminating MJ prohibition will be far better for our society.

monsterhunter · 01-09-2014, 03:35

I've been split on how this should be handled for some time. But as to why soldiers aren't involved on Unitied States soil, take a look at this site: http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm

Dusty · 01-09-2014, 05:04

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Originally Posted by monsterhunter

I've been split on how this should be handled for some time. But as to why soldiers aren't involved on Unitied States soil, take a look at this site: http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm

Obama has set a precedent of selectively enforcing federal laws. What makes you think he wouldn't apply it to posse comitatus? Who's gonna stop him? Boner?

monsterhunter · 01-09-2014, 06:52

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Originally Posted by Dusty

Obama has set a precedent of selectively enforcing federal laws. What makes you think he wouldn't apply it to posse comitatus? Who's gonna stop him? Boner?

I wouldn't put it past him at all. He doesn't seem to give a rat's ass about the Constitution. This is just another piece of paper to him.

miclo18d · 01-09-2014, 18:53

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Originally Posted by monsterhunter

I've been split on how this should be handled for some time. But as to why soldiers aren't involved on Unitied States soil, take a look at this site: http://www.dojgov.net/posse_comitatus_act.htm

Actually I've been involved on JTF-6 missions.

Posse Comitatus is very strict in what soldiers can and can't do. We could not collect on US citizens. We could only collect info on confirmed people crossing the US border. We had to call in what we saw and allow law enforcement agencies make arrests.

But bottom line, US military can do policing... It's just not direct involvement.

Just FYI, we busted (observed and called the LEA) an 800 lb pot shipment during one of our missions in Nogalas, AZ in 1996.

Flagg · 01-09-2014, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

Evil men will do evil things. I am of the belief that, like alcohol prohibition, eliminating MJ prohibition will be far better for our society.

I would also agree with decriminalisation and legalization as long as the issue of MJ impairment measurement is addressed.

But I think many people will be shocked to learn that Cartels will simply develop new revenue streams as they are not drug cartels, they are criminal networks that just happen to derive some of their income from illegal drugs.

Dusty · 01-10-2014, 04:20

Reefer's the main reason the Country's so screwed-up.

How many Conservative hippies do you know?

Flower Children became university professors and indoctrinated mush-brained potsmokers into the marxist ideology of the left, then they raised their kids to be lazy, sissified idiots who want everything handed to them on a silver platter (without working for it) and are sickeningly tolerant of each and every blasphemous trait known to man-not the least of which is the election and re-election of a communist to the White House.

Streck-Fu · 01-10-2014, 07:03

We've fought the War on Drugs for 40 years and spent Trillions of dollars and are now militarizing the police in the name of this 'war'.... Yet, MJ, and all other drugs, is just as cheap and easy to get (if not easier) than 40 years ago. In most American towns, it is easier for high school kids to get weed than beer.....Yet, actual usage of drugs is not much higher than the 70s (yes usage spiked and dropped over the years).

As far as a government enterprise, huge budgetary expense, and waste of law enforcement time, is it worth continuing?

Decriminalize it. Treat it like alcohol. Anything would be better. It would still be illegal to operate a car and businesses could still hire and fire based on drug tests.

How many more years, how much more money, and how much more of an escalating enforcement policy are we willing to accept?

Dusty · 01-10-2014, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

Decriminalize it. Treat it like alcohol. Anything would be better. It would still be illegal to operate a car and businesses could still hire and fire based on drug tests.

Ironically, I agree. Similar to illegal immigration-the water's under the bridge; seal the border and free the ones who are here (you'll be surprised how many go right back down south.)

Release the guys in jail for pot, legalize it and tax the crap out of it, because they're gonna get it, anyway.