10-01-2013, 10:29
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TacOffiicer, not gonna 2nd-guess the situation here but am curious about something. Is it normal for the FoP to be the one giving out statements to the press vs. the PD's own PAO?
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About a year or two ago Pat Camden was the News Affairs officer for the Chicago Police Dept. He has since retired and observed the current news affairs officer was more concerned about carrying water for the mayor and appeasing the "element". Mr. Camden thus went to work for the FOP and provided his services. He's has a good rapport with the local media and is generally respected by most.
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10-01-2013, 10:53
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#137
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Originally Posted by TacOfficer
About a year or two ago Pat Camden was the News Affairs officer for the Chicago Police Dept. He has since retired and observed the current news affairs officer was more concerned about carrying water for the mayor and appeasing the "element". Mr. Camden thus went to work for the FOP and provided his services. He's has a good rapport with the local media and is generally respected by most.
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Interesting dynamic in play there. Thanks.
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10-02-2013, 08:16
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Not SWAT and definitely not a Warrior....Fire discipline? Practice your lead.....
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Take his weapon...
For those in a similar position find a super lawyer in your area before signing anything...
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10-02-2013, 10:39
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Originally Posted by Noslack71
Gentlemen: In 1977 I was a Cop in Washington DC when the Hanafi Muslims initiated a terrorist attack on three buildings in Washington DC.
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For more information on the referenced attack:
March 9, 1977: Hanafi Muslims siege DC hostages, kill 2
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10-02-2013, 11:02
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Give them the address to Capital Hill.
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10-28-2013, 16:40
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I didn't know where to post this; but this thread seems the most logical.
Four law-enforcement officers were wounded Friday in a suburb of Sacramento, Calif., during an attempt to take a wanted gang member into custody.
The shooting occurred in Roseville, a suburb about 20 miles northeast of the state capital.
Helicopters circled overhead and armored vehicles and other police cars flocked to the area following an initial report that a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had been shot.
A sporadic gun battle lasted into the night and the commotion snarled traffic for hours. Police responded by setting up a checkpoint and pointing guns at motorists, as this Associated Press photo shows.
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Curious, I checked the Sacramento Bee for Oct. 25th. There was a photo gallery of 28 photos. The one below was #23 of 28. This does indeed look more than a little intimidating, that's why I thought it might have been staged; but apparently not, because the same two officers can be seen again in photo #20.
My question: I know that they were looking for a violent suspect who had apparently shot 4 officers; but is this really any way to do a roadblock check?
I also notice that the officer pointing the rifle does not have his finger on the trigger. Just being "safe"??? I'm confused at the behavior here. Can any of you QPs, or law enforcement personnel, advise whether this is SOP? (Seems guaranteed to piss off the law-abiding public if you ask me.)
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10-28-2013, 16:42
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Love the tub o' guts under the tactical helmet on the far side.
There is a steely eyed killer for you.
Und show me your paperz! Schnell!
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10-28-2013, 18:11
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Kind of looks like Johnny Knoxville and Jackass.
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10-29-2013, 07:43
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Back Stop
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Love the tub o' guts under the tactical helmet on the far side.
There is a steely eyed killer for you.
Und show me your paperz! Schnell!
TR
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Maybe the tub o' guts is the roving back stop. 
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10-29-2013, 07:51
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Maybe the tub o' guts is the roving back stop. |
Body bunker. 
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12-23-2013, 14:27
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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12-23-2013, 15:03
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He lives in a rural area and:
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...Magee's attorney, Dick DeGuerin, says sheriff's deputies did not announce themselves when they entered Magee's home just before 6 a.m. Thursday. DeGuerin says Magee opened fire without knowing that the person he shot was a sheriff's deputy.
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Are there no deaf people in Texas? Does shouting "Police!" make you a LEO?
When we were visited by sheriff deputies, a couple of weeks ago, they honked when they got within about 100'. 
Pat
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12-23-2013, 15:14
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RIP Officer, prayers for the family.
No details of the circumstances. Usual refrain from the offender "I didn't know".
Another article, little details:
http://www.officer.com/news/11284640...f-texas-deputy
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12-23-2013, 23:30
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I'd like to see a copy of the warrant and officers reports.
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12-24-2013, 07:25
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I'd like to see a copy of the warrant and officers reports.
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Me too, they need to ask themselves if this officers death was worth it. How bad an Hombre was this guy? What ever happened to just grabbing the guy when he came out doors?
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