07-17-2013, 21:51
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Jesse Jackson to UN: Investigate the Racial Context Behind Martin's Death
http://www.suntimes.com/news/jackson...ins-death.html
If Trayvon Martin were not a young black male, he would be alive today. Despite the verdict, it’s clear that George Zimmerman would never have confronted a young white man wearing a hoodie. He would, at the very least, have listened to the cops and stayed back. Trayvon Martin is dead because Zimmerman believed that “these guys always get away” and chose not to wait for the police.
Trayvon Martin’s death shatters the convenient myths that blind us to reality. That reality, as the Chicago Sun-Times editorial board wrote, is that “black men carry a special burden from the day they are born.”
(Is he talking about the Presidency being a burden?)
Both the prosecutor and the defense claimed that the trial was not about race. But Trayvon Martin was assumed to be threatening just for walking while being young, black and male.
(If the shoe fits...)
That is the reality that can no longer be ignored. Through the years, gruesome horrors — the murder of Emmitt Till, the shooting of Medgar Evers in his front yard — have galvanized African Americans and public action on civil rights. Trayvon Martin’s death should do the same.
(So you can extort more money, Jesse?)
What it dramatizes is what Michelle Alexander calls “the New Jim Crow.” Segregation is illegal; scurrilous racism unacceptable. But mass incarceration and a racially biased criminal justice system have served many of the same functions. Since 1970, we’ve witnessed a 600 percent increase in the number of people behind bars, overwhelmingly due to the war on drugs. Those imprisoned are disproportionately African Americans. The U.S. now imprisons a greater percentage of its black population than South Africa did at the height of apartheid.
(Why are they imprisoned? For NOT committing crimes?)
Drug usage is not dramatically greater in the black community. But young black males are racially profiled, more likely to be stopped and frisked (something New York Mayor Bloomberg defends), more likely to be arrested if stopped, more likely to be charged if arrested, more likely to be jailed if charged. In schools, zero tolerance — once again enforced disproportionately against people of color — results in expulsions, creating a virtual pipeline to prison.
This guy is a piece of work. He started hating whitey even before he spit in the fried chicken he served them as a teen.
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07-17-2013, 22:32
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." But young black males are racially profiled, more likely to be stopped and frisked (something New York Mayor Bloomberg defends), more likely to be arrested if stopped, more likely to be charged if arrested, more likely to be jailed if charged. In schools, zero tolerance — once again enforced disproportionately against people of color — results in expulsions, creating a virtual pipeline to prison."
Why are young black males profiled by the Police or a liberal loon like Bloomberg?
Stats maybe?
Approx 48% of all homicides in the US are committed by the black population...so about 13% of our pop commits about half of all murders.
Of that 13% about half are male so 7% commit 50% of the murders.
Of that 7% it is the 15 to 35 year olds that commit the majority of the violent crime...
So, about 4% of the US population commits about 50% of all the homicides in the US......
Why are young black males profiled? Why won't Jesse, Al, etc. talk about that?
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07-18-2013, 00:15
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I think there's also another inconvenient truth in terms of black mayors and chiefs of police across the country as well.
There were and are a large number of mayors and chiefs of police who happen to be black.
I would think both respective positions would provide an opportunity to correct any real or perceived race based injustices.
Let's see some data before, during, after the election/installation of black mayors and black chiefs of police that substantiates the accusations of inappropriate race based polices.
One would think that if there was a secret cabal of whitey or just plane old genuine collective prejudice that when black majors and chiefs of police make it to the top of the heap they would be justifiably destroying it with furious vengeance(as well as creating an awesome platform for book/movie deals).
Or are they all uncle toms and/or "powerless" to defeat "the man"?
It's like an anti-logic bomb went off in my head reading some of this stuff.
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07-18-2013, 04:54
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Why are young black males profiled by the Police or a liberal loon like Bloomberg?
Stats maybe?
Approx 48% of all homicides in the US are committed by the black population...so about 13% of our pop commits about half of all murders.
Of that 13% about half are male so 7% commit 50% of the murders.
Of that 7% it is the 15 to 35 year olds that commit the majority of the violent crime...
So, about 4% of the US population commits about 50% of all the homicides in the US......
Why are young black males profiled? Why won't Jesse, Al, etc. talk about that?
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Geez, PRB, that would be inconvenient. Don't ruin arguments with FACTS, Bro. It's much more fun to stir the pot with an emotional, racially charged misdirection.
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07-18-2013, 05:11
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These statistics are a bit outdated... But what brought this to mind was a radio show I stumbled across while on a road trip....
Panel members discussing recent events in FL.
Statement made was to the effect that the high percentage of minorities in the U.S. prison systems was an indication that the legal system in America was failing....
Statistics from 2004 and quote from SCOTUS Justice Kennedy
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"Nationwide, more than 40% of the prison population consists of African American inmates," Kennedy said. "In some cities, more than 50% of young African American men are under the supervision of the criminal justice system."
That reality is not likely to change, according to the group's study. Based on trends, a black male born in 2001 has a 1 in 3 chance of being imprisoned during his lifetime, while the chances for a Latino male are 1 in 6, and for a white male, 1 in 17.
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Which begs the question why? Is this just the blame game, somebody else's fault...a manifestation of discrimination?
Or is the answer more simple....
What are the "leaders" doing about it?
Do people like JJ and AS benefit from continued division and angst and therefore perpetuate the problem?
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07-18-2013, 05:20
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From the Chicago Sun-Times article:
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And it’s time to call on the United Nations Human Rights Commission for an in-depth investigation of whether the U.S. is upholding its obligations under international human rights laws and treaties.
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The UN? Really? That anyone would actually think that this case rises to that level is beyond my ability to comprehend. But then my paranoid twin reminds me that true agendas always remain hidden.
Didn't Barry make a statement a few months ago regarding UN involvement in the US under the guise of arms control? Eric Holder is out attacking State laws re: Stand Your Ground and now this? Anyone else see a pattern here?
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07-18-2013, 06:27
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Ann Coulter sits on the fence as usual...complete article at link below.
TO AVOID LOOKING LIKE A CRIMINAL, DON’T COMMIT A CRIME
July 17, 2013
Black liberals keep bemoaning the danger to their own teenage sons after the "not guilty" verdict in George Zimmerman's murder trial. To avoid what happened to Trayvon Martin, their boys need only follow this advice: Don't walk up to a stranger and punch him, ground-and-pound him, MMA-style, and repeatedly smash his head against the pavement.
The Justice-for-Trayvon crowd keeps pretending there hasn't been a trial where the evidence overwhelmingly showed that Trayvon committed the first (and only) crime that night by assaulting Zimmerman. Instead, the race agitators are sticking with the original story peddled by the media, back when we had zero facts. To wit, that Zimmerman had stalked a young black child and shot him dead just for being black and wearing a hoodie.
(And please stop talking about Martin's "hoodie"! Zimmerman wasn't worried about the hoodie; he was worried about being beaten to death.)
Instead of turning every story about a black person killed by a white person into an occasion to announce, "The simple fact is, America is a racist society," liberals might, one time, ask the question: Why do you suppose there would be a generalized fear of young black males? What might that be based on?
Throw us a bone. It's because a disproportionate number of criminals are young black males. It just happens that when Lee Van Houten and George Zimmerman were mugged by two of them, they survived the encounter.
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http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-07-17.html
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07-18-2013, 06:56
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Apparently he dosen't understand the legal system at all stating that Martin was denied a jury of his peers.
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/07/...of-peers-79713
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07-18-2013, 07:54
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Great post, Brother! Thanks! This points to the root of the problem and I ask where are leaders like Dr. Cosby or Dr. King? Replaced by the Sharptons, Holders, Jacksons, and Obamas. It's all about changing a Culture, IMO. Not fanning the flames of racism or blaming someone or some other group or institution.
The current leadership in the African-American community is doing them the greatest injustice by using race to further their personal agendas. Not one word uttered, nor one deed acted upon by these so-called leaders has advanced the cause of African-Americans. Oh, hell, I hate that term. Let me rephrase that - black Americans. We are all Americans (except for those illegals  ).
This situation is not going to change until the culture and therefore the behavior changes and that has to come from within. That requires real leadership, education, and economic opportunity and a generational effort. I believe that can be accomplished, but not until the black American community realizes that they are being used as tools by their current leaders. Until that time comes, the present leadership will continue to fan the flames of racism and division and do nothing to resolve the underlying cultural problem.
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07-18-2013, 08:21
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Then you'll like this one as well. Change has to come from within and people need to quit letting others define them.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201425501429241
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07-18-2013, 09:01
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Here's what I'm seeing here: Quiet outrage in the black community. After all this is concrete proof that racism is alive well. Emmitt Till, Act 2.
So I have to ask a couple of questions. In this small town of 33,000, what is the name of the last black teenager murdered here? Blank looks, "umm, what's his name?" No one remembers. Ke'Wayne Stamps, 17. March 20, 2013. Who killed him ? The Klan? Neo-Nazis? George Zimmerman? " Uh, no, it was about drugs..." No, not the question. It was four black males aged 17-20 that got in a car and went looking for Ke'Wayne. They drove around until they found him walking down Gibson Rd. Then they gunned him down. A true hate crime. They hated Ke'Wayne enough to invest time, gas and ammo to ensure that Ke'Wayne died. All 4 have been arrested for murder and will probably get manslaughter. Why? Because nobody cares about Ke'Wayne or the shooters and its cheaper and easier to get a jury of their peers to buy that.
This isn't about Trayvon or George. It's about the preservation of a status and political power and a moral high ground that doesn't exist. And it's becoming more and more apparent that the emperor has no clothes.
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07-18-2013, 09:10
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Interesting article - thanks for sharing.
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07-18-2013, 09:23
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The UN plea is a picture perfect demonstration of the goofiness that is the reverend jesse jackson. (intentionally not capitalized). Clearly with its record of success on terrorism, nuclear proliferation, child sex abuse exploitation, the smooth management of the cold war, and stunning civil rights victories in places like Sri Lanka, Haiti, Dar Fur, Rwanda, and other great places around the globe, the UN is ideally positioned to decide the outcome of a racial inequity in the court case of a Hispanic-American killing an African-American. Surely the UN would be more concerned about a single incident in a middle class Florida neighborhood, and less interested in the meager bit of violence in jesse’s home turf. Certainly that little town in Florida has more national impact than the amount of violence inflicted on black youth in Oakland, Detroit, Los Angeles, New York, and even Washington DC. Or is jesse just not interested in those places?
The good reverend likes to howl about the evils of profiling and how Unarmed17yearoldteenTrayvon Martin was killed because he was a black boy wearing a hoodie, and not an unidentified male, late at night in the rain walking too close to houses in a neighborhood plaged by recent crime. It always makes me feel better to reflect on reverend jacksons very own view on racial profiling:
“There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life, than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”
Wow, talk about profiling. Jesse likes to argue that his comment was taken out of context, but his ignorance his highlighted by the fact that profiling is EXACTLY a function of context. A Soldier in PT uniform in the company area at 620 am can be profiled as someone that is probably about to participate in a morning PT formation. That same guy in the S-1 at 1420 in the afternoon might be asked why he isn’t in duty uniform...
-Time, Place, Appearance, - nothing more nothing less
The same reason that footsteps make the good reverend fear that he is about to be robbed; not by a racist band of white thugs looking to roll a black man, but he was worried he would get robbed by his fellow black brothers.
…but that isn’t profiling? Come on now Mr jackson, surely an educated man like you can come up with something better than that poor excuse for putting your foot in your mouth.
The hypocritical reverend jackson speaks of dignity, honor, and respect and yet he has been hit with law suits for wrongful termination, harassment, and of course paternity by a woman that wasn’t his wife.
The good reverend likes to invoke god and righteousness, but he can’t keep his dick in his pants and prefers not to shine much of a spot light on his 14 year old daughter that he fathered by banging a staffer.
…come on mr Jackson, you’re causing me to loose faith.
He can’t wait to decry the racism that is drowning the US governments hatred of minorities when he accuses congress of “ramrod democracy” when ANY act in congress is at odds with his very own special brand of ideology, yet he his strangely proud of his own voice when he talks about any congressional edict that pass by 51 count senate vote along pure party lines, jammed through with trickery.
Then of course there is his recent declaration that Trayvon was robbed of his right to be represented by a jury of his peers because there were no young black men on the jury…
…hey Jesse, you fucking douche-bag, that whole “jury of your peers bit” is a function of the 6th Amendment. It doesn’t provide “rights” to the prosecution. It is the DEFENDANTS right to be tried with a speedy trial by a public, impartial jury of his peers. It is not intended to provide a platform for a kangaroo court of those that would issue a guilty verdict without even looking at the evidence.
Mr jackson possesses a special level of douche-baggery only achieved by an elite few. This wasn’t about justice to the adulterous reverend from Chicago, it was about him continuously fanning racial tension and making sure that whitey was held accountable for unprovoked acts of racial hatred.
…the same type of racial hatred demonstrated by the good reverend Jackson in his youth when he used to spit in the fried chicken of the white customers.
Go fuck your hand reverend jackson
...just my two cents.
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