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Old 05-02-2013, 13:53   #16
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I have found some scholarly publications and studies through a simple google search. However, I have not had an opportunity to read.
Wow, major reading comprehension failure on my part there. I predict what you'll read is that the mother will be genetically predisposed to having androgen insensitivity or not being capable of producing proper levels of androgen. However, now that I think about it more, you could also end up reading that DNA replication and translation errors might play a part, or random errors during mitosis. But, I haven't been on top of this field for a couple years now, since my transfer prospects ended with my enlistment, so new research could have uncovered new causes that I haven't heard about. Do you mind linking me to what you have? I would much like to read it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 14:09   #17
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Wow, major reading comprehension failure on my part there.
Sorry about that..

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I predict what you'll read is that the mother will be genetically predisposed to having androgen insensitivity or not being capable of producing proper levels of androgen. However, now that I think about it more, you could also end up reading that DNA replication and translation errors might play a part, or random errors during mitosis. But, I haven't been on top of this field for a couple years now, since my transfer prospects ended with my enlistment, so new research could have uncovered new causes that I haven't heard about. Do you mind linking me to what you have? I would much like to read it.
You may be right.

http://www.trans-health.com/2002/endocrine-disruptors/

I am not convinced that genetics or epigenetics are factors. My knowledge in this area is limited, which is why I am interested in reading more.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:12   #18
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I bet you have a health care plan that covers the things you want covered: knee replacements, you may need a lung or a liver or a heart, etc.

Why do you have a problen.with someone else doing the same, regardless of the fact you may not agree with the pieces parts that need to be replaced.

I thought we were a society based on "equal rights for all" based on the vision of the pursuit of Life and Liberty. Or shoukd we now say "only if we agree with ways in which someone.lives their life". The fact that you accuse liberals of infringing on YOUR rights, but have no problem infringing on someone else's because you disagree with it is the height of hypocracy.

Kind of like abortion, I don't feel I should be required pitch my hard earned money into it. And were do you stop....breast implants, penis extensions, genital piercings ???? Hell, I betcha their is a group out there that wishes they could be both sexs and could conceive all on their lonesome.

Beside there are much cheaper methods.....Strap On Prosthetic's.
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Old 05-02-2013, 16:58   #19
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Kind of like abortion, I don't feel I should be required pitch my hard earned money into it. And were do you stop....breast implants, penis extensions, genital piercings ???? Hell, I betcha their is a group out there that wishes they could be both sexs and could conceive all on their lonesome.

Beside there are much cheaper methods.....Strap On Prosthetic's.
Exactly.

Where do you draw the line?

Low self-esteem from a big nose or flat chest?

Should other students (or their parents) have to pay to fix these genetically imposed challenges?

Reduction surgery when that doesn't fix the problem?

Tattoo removal? A few extra pounds?

Where does it end?

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Old 05-02-2013, 18:16   #20
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At present lobbyist push this crap because Big Pharma, Big Medical and Big EDU can make BOOKOO selling hormones, trips to the shrink, surgeries and making a new medical specialties. The activist push this because they want something but they want others to pay for it.

This is only possible by spreading the expense to the majority.


More to the point, I don't have any issue with health insurers offering policies that cover Transgenders which offer coverage for parts switching. But if the insurers are to offer such a plan it should be a group plan specially for transgenders and that way the Transgenders are the ones paying for their idiosyncrasy not the non-transgenders which constitute the vast majority of the population.

Another option could be that insurers offers basics and then have an À la carte menu of extras where individuals can pick additional riders that cover things out of the norm or non-essential.

You want insurance to cover your promiscuity, gender bending, boobies, weenie, nose, Lipo, etc.....you can have it all for an additional fee which will be added to your basic coverage.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:58   #21
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness"

It states that humans were created with equal ability to make something of themselves, not equal outcomes.

It doesn't guarantee happiness just the pursuit of it.
Fantastic! If only we could get the PC police to understand this...
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:04   #22
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Exactly.

Where do you draw the line?

Low self-esteem from a big nose or flat chest?

Should other students (or their parents) have to pay to fix these genetically imposed challenges?

Reduction surgery when that doesn't fix the problem?

Tattoo removal? A few extra pounds?

Where does it end?

TR
Will the policy cover visits to the local brothel for a hyperactive sex drive?
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:49   #23
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Does this mean I can get a hair reassignment?
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