Protecting the Second Amendment – Why all Americans Should Be Concerned

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by ddoering

We got their panties in a twist.

I've read a buttload of posts all over the net regarding the letter, and nearly all of the statements other than those of the obviously lib sites refer to pride and honor.

The responses come across as being from those who have been reassured in some way.

[ddoering]

I was referring to the site posted above.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by ddoering

I was referring to the site posted above.

Roger, Bro-I gotcha. I meant to differentiate between the lib posts and those of normal people.

[Knight]

Amen! Will keep this moving forward.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Dusty

The responses come across as being from those who have been reassured in some way.

Because of the provenance and authorship I think you are in the X-ring as to many areas of the country. More so than some other manifestos, those who only know what they've seen on TV and the silver screen are likely, whether they admit it or not, to view this as a light in the darkness, particularly those in states in the firm clutches of 'Empire'.

They still see MSG Muldoon & Doc & Peter-san, they're still wishing for the Wolverines to get some help, and they still believe "men who mean just what they say."

The notion of still standing with and for something bigger than oneself is not dead. You're seeing that now.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Because of the provenance and authorship I think you are in the X-ring as to many areas of the country. More so than some other manifestos, those who only know what they've seen on TV and the silver screen are likely, whether they admit it or not, to view this as a light in the darkness, particularly those in states in the firm clutches of 'Empire'.

They still see MSG Muldoon & Doc & Peter-san, they're still wishing for the Wolverines to get some help, and they still believe "men who mean just what they say."

The notion of still standing with and for something bigger than oneself is not dead. You're seeing that now.

I believe you're 100% right.

Outstanding work, SF.

[orion5]

Originally Posted by Dusty

I've read a buttload of posts all over the net regarding the letter, and nearly all of the statements other than those of the obviously lib sites refer to pride and honor.

The responses come across as being from those who have been reassured in some way.

That's what I've seen as well, a general sense of excitement and gratitude that some of America's finest warriors have spoken up.

I don't want to focus on the negative comments I've seen, as many of those are to be expected. Instead, I'm hoping many of those Americans quietly watching in the background...many like me, tired, over-stretched in our lives, with no time for political BS...I'm hoping those people are now waking up and paying attention to the larger issues at hand. Anyone in a "neutral" wait-and-see position right now is not neutral at all. They're being dragged backwards in a mis-directed wave of hysteria. This is the time to do something, not wait.

It's too bad more Americans can't know you QPs, individually, to understand the weight of your words. The QPs I have the privilege of calling Friends are not about fear, loathing and love of violence. The exact opposite: they love and value their country, are positive and full of laughter. And when they speak, I listen.

Well done, gentlemen.

[funnyman]

Just a point of clarification: I didn't post the link to that trash site to demoralize anyone. I was just dumbfounded (though I shouldn't have been at this point) at the sheer idiocy of the posts by the idiots there. Although we can expect American society to have elements that are anti-military/pacifist/tree-hugger/socialist/marxist/etc, it reinforces to me that we have some folks who are truly incapable of seeing through the fog of verbal persuasion to understand what's really happening in this country.

I had a chance to chat with one of the signers of this doc last night, and expressed my gratitude. Personally, it's quite refreshing to see such a document made public, and most of the blogs I've read had comments that reflected my feelings. Even though this document is an expression of opinion, not call to action (as was told to me), I doubt most civilians understand the true magnitude of the document.

Originally Posted by orion5

That's what I've seen as well, a general sense of excitement and gratitude that some of America's finest warriors have spoken up.

I don't want to focus on the negative comments I've seen, as many of those are to be expected. Instead, I'm hoping many of those Americans quietly watching in the background...many like me, tired, over-stretched in our lives, with no time for political BS...I'm hoping those people are now waking up and paying attention to the larger issues at hand. Anyone in a "neutral" wait-and-see position right now is not neutral at all. They're being dragged backwards in a mis-directed wave of hysteria. This is the time to do something, not wait.

It's too bad more Americans can't know you QPs, individually, to understand the weight of your words. The QPs I have the privilege of calling Friends are not about fear, loathing and love of violence. The exact opposite: they love and value their country, are positive and full of laughter. And when they speak, I listen.

Well done, gentlemen.

[Surf n Turf]

Some comments on the letter from THE BLAZE
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cdn1979 Posted on January 30, 2013 at 12:54pm
so, what is the point of this letter? who cares who signs it, what it says, or who sees it? The content is no different than other pro gun stances. It makes sense, but what is the value add of it? who is it for?

Thundergod Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:24pm
When a Green Beret speaks, people are wise to listen. These men train freedom fighters to throw off the yoke of tyranny. When they see it in America, those politicians imposing tyranny should recognize they arent working to free men,but to enslave them.

True American66 Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:36pm
An outstanding correspondence from the protectors of freedom to the masses they protect.
This letter represents a knowledgeable, comprehensive, analysis of a complex and emotional issue. I couldn’t be more proud of these fine American men. It seems that smart, sincere collaboration can still exist somewhere among us. I am not at all surprised that it would come from some of our most respected and trustworthy military members. Gentlemen, I salute you.

BlackCrow Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:17pm
There have been those who would question if ordered would the military take our guns. I would submit these outstanding young people would be standing on the side of liberty and the Constitution. Why would Obama call for an armed federal civilian corps? Why do Communists want to further gut the military? I would submit this as the reason. This is not the scribblings of an uneducated trailer park redneck or the member of an underclass who the Army is the employer of last resort.
I would be honored to load the authors magazines!

[Team Sergeant]

This was my personal favorite........

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blanco5
Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:51pm
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!

My answer:

blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
Team Sergeant

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

This was my personal favorite........

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blanco5
Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:51pm
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!

My answer:

blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
Team Sergeant

I can't even remember who said this but it always stuck:
"Telling someone they're about to step on a landmine isn't a threat. It's simply good manners."

Still, while I'm appreciative of the very affirming nature of the reaction to the letter, I hope to see at least an equal amount of focus amongst those venues on the specific recommendations made - because it is a communication that also furthers a dialogue IF the other party is truly willing to have one - containing another side of what an actual conversation would be. As Clint Eastwood said to the chair, "No, you shut up for now, it's my turn to talk."

If not, then the last thing they hear under their foot may be 'click'...

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Badger52

I can't even remember who said this but it always stuck: "Telling someone they're about to step on a landmine isn't a threat. It's simply good manners."

Where was that guy on 28 Oct 2012?

Crip

[grog18b]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

This was my personal favorite........

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blanco5
Posted on January 30, 2013 at 1:51pm
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!

My answer:

blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
Team Sergeant

That plus, the lights are always on, and the doors are always open. Don't sing it... Bring it.

Very nicely done Gents. GROG

[funnyman]

I was recently talking to a Marine officer who's a friend. He's also a civilian LEO. We were discussing the opinion of the second amendment among young ones serving. The conversation revealed what I had suspected: that the younger folks are not educated on the fundamentals of the US Constitution and some just don't care. In a LEO's case, they're just taught the legalese of when it's OK to arrest someone. That's great except that so many current laws appear to be unconstitutional (IMHO).

I remember, as a young PFC, just thinking I need to do what I was ordered to do. I assumed every order was a legal one unless it was something to the effect of 'go blow grandma's brains out'. If I was ordered to confiscate weapons from civilians, I would have done it. AFAIR, at NO time did either an officer or NCO brief us on the Constitution and how it impacted our responsibilities or actions. Sure, we were explained Geneva Convention stuff, but IMO, that's different.

I've been ETS'd for quite a while now, so maybe things have changed since then. But I think our armed services and LEOs need to do a better job explaining the Constitution to the young folks. And the older folks should get refresher training. After all, if they're going to take an oath to defend it, they sure as hell should understand what it's all really about.

If I were still in, I'd be having a heart-to-heart with the guys both up and down my chain of command.
Are those conversations happening today? I sure hope so.

-Just my $.02

[Lan]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

blanco5:
Well, we know who the first 1,100 people the government is going after!

My answer:
blanco5,
Just WHO do you think the government would send?
Team Sergeant

Thank you for sharing this Team Sergeant. It's an honor to witness what I believe is a pivotal moment in American History. I quoted this because blanco5 made a comment typical of someone who chooses his 1A over his 2A. We have 2 ears and 1 mouth for a reason, and if the typical liberal listened more they would understand that our 1A doesn't mean much without our 2A. Non thinking people like him are what will ultimately lead to the demise of our liberties. The most recent election proved they are the majority IMO.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Benjamin Franklin

And for the politicians who are doing everything they falsely believe will better our society, or the ones who propose legislation that infringes on my safety to push a liberal agenda in an effort to be re elected-

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

I appreciate the 1100 Quiet Professionals who made their stance known.