Hillary Clinton Trashes Whiners

[Stargazer]

I am no Hillary Clinton fan for a multitude of reasons. Having said that, I believe she made the statement below as a boss with respect to the type of work ethic she expects v. a politician.

“I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!”

Like her or not, she comes across as a shrewd woman and no one can accuse her of being paralyzed, unaccomplished or doing nothing... that includes standing by Bill.

[Gypsy]

I'm not a HRC fan either but her comments are spot on. Whining is so unattractive.

echoes I don't know why you're all worked up over this, she's talking about personal accountability and taking responsibility for what's happening in your life. Kind of like what is said around here often.

Basically it boils down to if you don't like it, change it. The opportunities in this country are endless.

I think more people should speak up about it, frankly.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

I'm not a HRC fan either but her comments are spot on. Whining is so unattractive.

echoes I don't know why you're all worked up over this, she's talking about personal accountability and taking responsibility for what's happening in your life. Kind of like what is said around here often.

Basically it boils down to if you don't like it, change it. The opportunities in this country are endless.

I think more people should speak up about it, frankly.

I am right there with you. I am by no means a HRC supporter, but I agree with what she is saying in this piece. I am also of the opinion that if she was the current POTUS we would be in a much better place than we currently find ourselves.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by afchic

I am right there with you. I am by no means a HRC supporter, but I agree with what she is saying in this piece. I am also of the opinion that if she was the current POTUS we would be in a much better place than we currently find ourselves.

At the end of almost four years of Obama-rule I am almost surprised to find myself agreeing with you.

[echoes]

Will Just say this in response, as I usually bow and agree when being called out and thrown under the bus for my opinion, which has become very common these daays.

In this case, I remember four years ago, even eight, when HRC was the thread topic of choice on ps...AS SHE DIS-RESPECTED OUR MEN and WOMEN IN UNIFORM in HER WHITE HOUSE!

I remember how aghast we all were, and how it was unpopular.

I still remember that insult to Our bravest in Uniform, and do NOT give her a pass for being of her political rank and file. Sorry.

And that I am sure makes me as unpopular as ever among her fellow supporters, but so be it.

I will always support Our Bravest...and those are MY heroes, and they wear a Uniform.

Holly

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by echoes

And that I am sure makes me as unpopular as ever among her fellow supporters, but so be it.

I will always support Our Bravest...and those are MY heroes, and they wear a Uniform.

Holly

Are you even reading what others are posting?

Pointing out that the secretary of state (a) has offered sound guidance and (b) would have been a better president than the incumbent does not make those who offer such observations "fellow supporters" of Mrs. Clinton.

[mark46th]

I look at Hillary Clinton as one of those people I would use to annoy a pain in the ass and make life in general difficult for someone I have to deal with in business, etc. But I wouldn't want to deal with her on a day to day basis. She is smart and tough but she is power-hungry. She has been corrupted and consumed by the pursuit of power.

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by echoes

Will Just say this in response, as I usually bow and agree when being called out and thrown under the bus for my opinion, which has become very common these daays.

Holly no one is throwing you under a bus or asking you to bow and agree. The woman made a statement about whiners, and I'll bet that had anyone else made it you'd probably agree with what was said.

Yeah, and I'm not a supporter of hers. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Holly no one is throwing you under a bus or asking you to bow and agree. The woman made a statement about whiners, and I'll bet that had anyone else made it you'd probably agree with what was said.

Yeah, and I'm not a supporter of hers. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Really?

She is nothing more than a hater of OUR Military Men and Women in uniform. Peroid. And Mrs. Clinton can kiss my ass for her half hearted gestures towards them.

I am nothing on the grand scale of things, but I do support My Guys, which this woman is attempting to ride on the coat tails of, and that to me is an outrage!

And yes I am simple and probobly thought of as stupid by the cool crowd, but my opinion will never change L.

Holly

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Stargazer

I am no Hillary Clinton fan for a multitude of reasons. Having said that, I believe she made the statement below as a boss with respect to the type of work ethic she expects v. a politician.



Like her or not, she comes across as a shrewd woman and no one can accuse her of being paralyzed, unaccomplished or doing nothing... that includes standing by Bill.

"I remember coming in under sniper fire." Did you admire that lie?

"Standing by Bill"? You admire stupidity as well as dishonesty, then...

Wake up and do some research.

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Dusty

"I remember coming in under sniper fire."[/I] Did you admire that lie?

Nope

Originally Posted by Dusty

"Standing by Bill"? You admire stupidity as well as dishonesty, then...

Nope -- but that was her choice in men and she stood by him. I don't admire either of the Clinton's.

Originally Posted by Dusty

Wake up and do some research.

My eyes are wide-open and I know all I care to about Hillary and the Clinton's at this juncture in my life.

I happen to agree with her statement about whiners. Perhaps you missed my first comment:

Well.. Hillary "is" an expert on work - life balance... Ask Bill.

On a serious note, I actually agree with her comment:

Quote:
“I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!”

I don't recall saying I admired her or that I believed she was an ethical person. What I attempted to convey is whether one likes her or not, I don't like working with whiners either, she is shrewd, and has an accomplished resume.

It was not an endorsement of her, her character or martial choices but rather a response to her comments in the article.

On a side note, it's good to have you back Dusty.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Stargazer

On a side note, it's good to have you back Dusty.

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't understand your reasoning.

In a nutshell, the whole reason for "standing behind" BJ wasn't one of honor or faithfulness, but of greed for power. If you want me to present a detailed analysis, I have to defer due to time constraints. There are some here who may have the time to edify you in this regard.

Obama gave Hillary her station, and she has grossly screwed it up (Benghazi is a glaring example). She got the post (and her campaign debt paid off) for going unbitchingly into the night when Obama was burgeoning in his winning bid for a position that she desired (and still does). She had to stay married to Bill, or her aspirations would be doused, even those for 2016.

Put a star sapphire Rolex on a pig, and whaddya got-something to admire?

No enmity toward you, personally, Stargazer, believe me. It rankles me to see a bud get snookered into the myth, is all.

[Pete]

Stargazer - remeber "Baking Cookies"?

I don't know how old you are - or how close you were following the political stuff in the early 1990's.

HRC was portrayed as the strong modern woman, two for the price of one - a co-president so to say.

When BC's BJ story came out the left was in a tizzy - what's the modern woman going to do? Well, she broke out signing "Stand by your man......"

Dancing on the beach in France????????

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Pete

Dancing on the beach in France????????

Could've gone a long time without that image being resurrected.

[Stargazer]

Originally Posted by Dusty

I appreciate the sentiment, but I don't understand your reasoning.

Many may agree Dusty, but I believe the BB has been a little less colorful without you.

Originally Posted by Dusty

In a nutshell, the whole reason for "standing behind" BJ wasn't one of honor or faithfulness, but of greed for power. If you want me to present a detailed analysis, I have to defer due to time constraints. There are some here who may have the time to edify you in this regard.

No need. It was this very event in history that catapulted and fueled my desire to reacquaint myself with the "Federalist / Anti-Federalist Papers". For the life of me I couldn't figure out how Constitutional Experts could have such differing views of the same documents. So I read them for myself to draw my own conclusions. It also was the start of my writing to representatives in congress and Chief Justice Rehnquist. I don't know her motives for the choices she made, Dusty. Again, my remarks were related to the article and not her character.

Originally Posted by Dusty

Obama gave Hillary her station, and she has grossly screwed it up (Benghazi is a glaring example). She got the post (and her campaign debt paid off) for going unbitchingly into the night when Obama was burgeoning in his winning bid for a position that she desired (and still does). She had to stay married to Bill, or her aspirations would be doused, even those for 2016.

I understand all that Dusty, as I noted she is shrewd. In the case of Benghazi, I am disgusted and have never felt she or this administration were competent. Again, this is outside the scope of the article or at least was in my view.

Originally Posted by Dusty

Put a star sapphire Rolex on a pig, and whaddya got-something to admire?

Only if you like pigs dressed in bling-bling. It's a pig with a star sapphire Rolex. I can observe that without making judgments to the type of pig or quality of jewelry. Dusty, I don't admire her -- I agree with the view she expressed about woman in the workplace that whine and think they have no choices.

Originally Posted by Dusty

No enmity toward you, personally, Stargazer, believe me. It rankles me to see a bud get snookered into the myth, is all.

None taken. I am a conservative, why does my reasoning in agreeing with that statement surprise you?

I do not take issue with being challenged as long as it's not done in an offensive manner. I read and participate on this board to learn and to continually challenge my own line of thinking.