11-02-2004, 19:56
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Area Commander
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Taser- X26. The M-26's are too bulky.
Baton- PR-24 side handle is the only way to go to produce incapatation
Collasable if you have been to the Curciable's (sp) training (ask NDD I don't know about them)
O.C./ Pepper spray we use the Punch II w/ 2 million Schofield Heat Units. SHU is the only way to determine the pain level with them. I.E. 2 millions hurts like hell. 5 million WOW that will melt crap.
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11-03-2004, 14:32
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Guerrilla
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Suburban Philadelphia, Pa. / MGRS 18SVK 11 05
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Archer06,
Tasers:
I'm with SmokinJoe on the Taser x-26. I've been hit with it 5 times in training and demos. I'm livin' proof that you can't do shit once hit with it. The fifth time I knew what to expect and thought I would try to fight it...yeah right.
Batons:
The ASP baton is great...but has the same problems as all friction lock batons as mentioned by SmokinJoe. I recommend the Monadnock Autolock or Positive Lock models. I switched to the Monadnock Autolock a year ago and I don't look back. The Autolock locks out automatically and will only collapse when you depress the release button located in the tailcap. It also collapses silently as a result, a big plus when trying to remain undetected.
Pepper sprays:
We used to use the Pepperfoam made be Federal Laboratories. We now use the pepper spray made by Pepperball. I liked the foam product better because you don't get the wide area dispersal and associated cross contamination. It's very target specific. But both work very well.
Good luck in your search
ER
Last edited by Endorphin Rush; 11-03-2004 at 14:35.
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11-04-2004, 09:43
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Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Central TX
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Originally Posted by Endorphin Rush
Pepper sprays:
We used to use the Pepperfoam made be Federal Laboratories. We now use the pepper spray made by Pepperball. I liked the foam product better because you don't get the wide area dispersal and associated cross contamination. It's very target specific. But both work very well.
Good luck in your search
ER
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ER:
Some of the local guys used the foam when it first came out and I was a Law enforcement explorer. There were several cases of folks getting sprayed with it and shaking/flailing/slinging the crap back onto the officer who had sprayed them with it. This was not the intended result and they went right back to their punch spray.
Just my .02
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11-04-2004, 19:30
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Area Commander
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Originally Posted by Air.177
ER:
Some of the local guys used the foam when it first came out and I was a Law enforcement explorer. There were several cases of folks getting sprayed with it and shaking/flailing/slinging the crap back onto the officer who had sprayed them with it. This was not the intended result and they went right back to their punch spray.
Just my .02
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Yep, I have seen it first hand. Kinda sucks when you get a direct hit from your own O.C. foam.
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11-04-2004, 20:51
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Guerrilla
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Suburban Philadelphia, Pa. / MGRS 18SVK 11 05
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Stop it...these guys sprayed someone and then allowed that same person to throw it back at them. Please...tell me they understand the tactical advantage of using the aerosol spray while upwind. 
All kidding aside, I've seen the good and bad sides of foam, aerosol and stream. I've deployed the aerosol spray in bars and then proceeded to roll around with some clown on a bar stool, the whole time coughing up a lung because the shit filled the entire bar.
Now, if you're into the spray...I'm a big fan of OC/CS. That stuff just takes the "F" out of uck.
ER
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11-05-2004, 10:38
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Location: Virginia
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Focused
Thanks, to all have replied. This is good info and I trust your opinions, of course I will need to “field test some of this stuff”- (Endorphin Rush are you interested in volunteering again???) but I appreciate the focus. There is so much on the market that I wanted to screen the majority of junk upfront and then move to situational dependent type criteria for the rest of my selection process. I will keep you posted on my findings.
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11-05-2004, 11:37
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Originally Posted by Archer06
Thanks, to all have replied. This is good info and I trust your opinions, of course I will need to “field test some of this stuff”- (Endorphin Rush are you interested in volunteering again???) but I appreciate the focus. There is so much on the market that I wanted to screen the majority of junk upfront and then move to situational dependent type criteria for the rest of my selection process. I will keep you posted on my findings.
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You should see the line of guys volunteering to get TASERed at the SHOT Show TASER Booth by a cute girl in a skimpy bikini.
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