14 Dead, 50 Hurt In Mass Shooting Inside Aurora Movie Theater

[sf11b_p]

He was armored up with multiple weapons. Yet he gave up easily, wanted the attention but did want to survive it seems.

It's stated he entered through emergency exit doors those open one way yes, who opened the door for him and why. The news showed one witness stating an individual near him received a cell call then opened that door.

[Destrier]

Since we are talking about a Colorado incident, maybe we can avoid discussing NC law.

[alelks]

Originally Posted by sf11b_p

He was armored up with multiple weapons. Yet he gave up easily, wanted the attention but did want to survive it seems.

It's stated he entered through emergency exit doors those open one way yes, who opened the door for him and why. The news showed one witness stating an individual near him received a cell call then opened that door.

It's been reported that it was him that got up and walked out the door.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by sf11b_p

He was armored up with multiple weapons. Yet he gave up easily, wanted the attention but did want to survive it seems.

It's stated he entered through emergency exit doors those open one way yes, who opened the door for him and why. The news showed one witness stating an individual near him received a cell call then opened that door.

Aurora PD stated that Holmes had purchased a ticket, sat in the theater, watched about 10 minutes of the film, got up, walked out the fire exit, got his "gear" on and armed up, then re-entered the fire exit (which he propped opened as he left) and began the rampage.

I'm able to watch on of the local news stations live stream and get this "updates".

Edit To Add .... here is the link for the live stream I've been watching ......

http://media.thedenverchannel.com/livestreampage

[Sdiver]

Apparently Holmes had set up his apt. as a diversion.

Loud Music Used To Lure People To Booby-Trapped Apt.

'Techno Music' Played From Midnight To 1 A.M. At James Holmes' Apartment
Holmes started shooting at or about 0030 (12:30)


AURORA, Colo. -- A neighbor of the mass shooting suspect thinks the man, James Holmes, may have tried to lure someone into his booby-trapped apartment to create a diversion during the shooting spree.
The neighbor, Chris Rodriguez, told 7NEWS, he and his girlfriend started hearing loud techno music coming from above them at midnight.
"Usually the complex is very quiet, nobody has parties, so that was the first time we actually had a party or a lot of noise at the complex," said Rodriguez.


After about 15 minutes, Rodriguez's girlfriend decided to knock on the door and ask them to turn the music down.
"She went upstairs to the apartment, and she knocked on the door pretty hard, she knocked two or three times and yelled into the door, 'Hey, can you turn that music down, we are trying to sleep,'" said Rodriguez.
Rodriguez said that no one answered and his girlfriend didn't even hear any footsteps.


While she was listening at the door, she noticed that the door moved.
"The door moved a little bit, and the handle jiggled a little, and she was contemplating going into the apartment, but something told her don't do it," Rodriguez said.
Rodriguez said his girlfriend then went back to their apartment and called police.
Officers said they would try to send an officer out, but they weren't sure if they had anyone.
After 20 to 30 minutes, the music continued, so they called the non-emergency number for Aurora Police again.
"The dispatcher said, 'We're in a crisis right now, we really can't have any officers out at the moment,'" Rodriguez said.
At the time, Rodriguez didn't know about the mall shooting.
The couple went back to bed and the music stopped at 1 a.m.
At 2 a.m., Rodriquez said he heard a loud crash, then a knock on the door.
"It's the SWAT team there in full armor," Rodriguez said.
Officers escorted the couple and others out of the building.

"My theory is that what he did is he started the music up around midnight so somebody would go up to the apartment and open that door around 12:15," said Rodriquez.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...27/detail.html

[PSM]

"Aurora shooting victim Jessica Ghawi was tweeting just before her death; was present at mall shooting in Toronto six weeks ago"

http://twitchy.com/2012/07/20/aurora...ore-her-death/

What are the odds?

Pat

[echoes]

Originally Posted by tonyz

My casual observation early this a.m. was based to a great degree on how the press (the basically corrupt MSM) has responded in prior mass-shooting events.

Add to this easily observable behavior (the press and gun issues/shootings) - that this is an election year - plus the 24/7 news cycle and it seems to me to be fairly predictable.

There is an ongoing saying here on PS, graciously traught to me by AM...and others over the years....

If you were not there, then it is all armchair QB.....

Will save my opinions for when the real facts come out.

Holly

[BigJimCalhoun]

Originally Posted by KimuraFTW

They say the police were on the scene in 60-90 seconds. That's one heck of a response time! Considering there were still 71 victims though, that just further confirms the need to carry and be able to take your safety into your own hands. I've read that Colorado permits both open carry and is shall issue. Does anyone know if they are not allowed in theaters?

Conceal Carry Not permitted in:

Federal Buildings
State /county were metal detectors are at all entrances
schools
private property posted as such.

I don't know if the theatre had a no weapons sign, often they have some code of conduct in a corner somewhere.

source
http://www.dcsheriff.net/Concealed_Handgun_Permits.html



The law is the same statewide for CCW
open carry is allowed except where it is not, and most cities prohibit open carry. Unless in the forest, best to assume OC is banned.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by echoes

What?, sir.

Holly

My observations are relative to our current MTV/Realty TV culture that glorifies and perhaps encourages the pursuit of fame (perhaps more than in the past). Certainly, the Internet appears to contribute to this phenomena. Everyone seems in search of their 15 minutes. My observations were in limited response to post #22 (directly above my post) that basically identified the fact that we have always had violence but this very public call for attention (public mass murder) by young folks - seems like a fairly recent development - and it might be increasing in frequency.

Experts may or may not find a correlation.

My comments are expressly not an indictment of - nor an insult to - the mentally ill who have not committed mass murder.

My comments might be an insult to the MTV/Realty TV culture. So be it.

I hope that helps.

[AngelsSix]

Originally Posted by alelks

And what's a shame is that it is illegal in NC for a CCW to be carried into in a movie theater as you cannot carry due to having to pay to get in.

SUCKS!

A friend of mine asked me yesterday if I was going to see that movie and I told them flat out, no. When they asked me why, I explained that theaters are dangerous and I wouldn't set foot in one. Now they know why....

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by echoes

There is an ongoing saying here on PS, graciously traught to me by AM...and others over the years....

If you were not there, then it is all armchair QB.....

Will save my opinions for when the real facts come out.

Holly

Re post # 52 - I was "there" - no, not Aurora, CO, but MY quote that you chose to highlight in post # 52 was MY explanation of MY OWN comments in posts # 8, 35, and 43.

I certainly did NOT armchair quarterback anything (except, right now, my own words that you took out of context) and some of the MSMs early reactions to the mass-shooting. Which they did.

Hope this clears things up.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Go back and read the thread carefully and you should see the flow of discussion.

[KimuraFTW]

Originally Posted by BigJimCalhoun

Conceal Carry Not permitted in:

Federal Buildings
State /county were metal detectors are at all entrances
schools
private property posted as such.

I don't know if the theatre had a no weapons sign, often they have some code of conduct in a corner somewhere.

source
http://www.dcsheriff.net/Concealed_Handgun_Permits.html



The law is the same statewide for CCW
open carry is allowed except where it is not, and most cities prohibit open carry. Unless in the forest, best to assume OC is banned.

Thanks. I live in Maryland and you basically have to know the Governor to get one here so I don't know all the details.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by tonyz

Re post # 52 - I was "there" - no, not Aurora, CO, but MY quote that you chose to highlight in post # 52 was MY explanation of MY OWN comments in posts # 8, 35, and 43.

I certainly did NOT armchair quarterback anything (except, right now, my own words that you took out of context) and some of the MSMs early reactions to the mass-shooting. Which they did.

Hope this clears things up.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Go back and read the thread carefully and you should see the flow of discussion.

Originally Posted by tonyz

My observations are relative to our current MTV/Realty TV culture that glorifies and perhaps encourages the pursuit of fame (perhaps more than in the past). Certainly, the Internet appears to contribute to this phenomena. Everyone seems in search of their 15 minutes. My observations were in limited response to post #22 (directly above my post) that basically identified the fact that we have always had violence but this very public call for attention (public mass murder) by young folks - seems like a fairly recent development - and it might be increasing in frequency.

Experts may or may not find a correlation.

My comments are expressly not an indictment of - nor an insult to - the mentally ill who have not committed mass murder.

My comments might be an insult to the MTV/Realty TV culture. So be it.

I hope that helps.

WTF???

Stand behind my Ambush Master quote!!!

Holly

[tonyz]

'Tea Partier' Jim Holmes calls ABC tie-in on Batman shooting ‘blatantly lazy’

COLORADO SHOOTINGJULY 20, 2012BY: DAVID CODREA
Examiner

http://www.examiner.com/article/tea-...alerts_article

Excerpt:

"With some rushing to judgment in the wake of the early Friday shootings at the opening of the third installment in the Batman trilogy, “The Dark Knight Rises,” at an Aurora, Colo., movie theater, a member of a Tea Party group who shares the same name as the shooter has responded with justified irritation to a report by Brian Ross of ABC News that “there is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year, as well.”

[Gypsy]

I'm surprised the media hasn't blamed it on Bush yet. Bringing up a TP member's name...really? That's some crack reporting right there.

RIP to those who were murdered, my prayers are with the families. Speedy recovery to those who were hurt.

I hope this SOB fries.