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Old 05-22-2012, 02:40   #31
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One name I don't think I saw in this thread is one of the few politicians who hasn't been coy about saying he would accept the nomination if offered: Gov Bob McDonnell of Virginia. Virginia governors are barred from running for re-election, so he will be out of a job once his term is up. That probably affects his willingness to entertain the VP possibility more openly than other candidates.

PROS: popular Governor of a key swing state Obama won in 2008 (the first Democrat to carry Virginia since LBJ in 1964), though McDonnell's approval ratings have slipped somewhat recently. Legislative (House of Delegates), executive (Commonwealth Att'y General and Governor), business, and military experience (retired LTC, USAR).

CONS: no specific foreign policy experience. Democrats and their media allies would be expected to tarnish him and Romney as part of their "war on women" strategy over the recent ultrasound debate in Virginia.

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Old 05-22-2012, 03:13   #32
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Also, a couple of posters mentioned Condi Rice as a preferred Attorney General pick. I don't see this, as Dr. Rice has no legal experience. You maybe don't technically have to be an attorney to be Attorney General, but it helps, to say the least.

Some potential VP candidates have been criticized for lacking foreign policy experience. Dr. Rice's experience is all foreign policy. If I had my druthers, I wouldn't mind seeing here in Foggy Bottom again, though I imagine she might view it as a step down to take the same job she already had. She intimidates Putin, a good trait to have. I would actually prefer John R. Bolton, but absent a filibuster-proof Senate majority, he and his mustache of doom might have a little trouble getting confirmed.

I think there are a number of strong candidates for AG with both the legal credentials and the conservative bona fides. Among these would be Judge Michael Chertoff, the former Secretary of Homeland Security, former Solicitor General Paul Clement, and Senator Mike Lee of Utah.

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Another name to throw into the VP mix: Gov. Tim Pawlenty. As I recall, T-Paw endorsed Romney pretty quickly after abandoning his own quest for the White House last year.

Also regarding Rubio and West: I can't remember where I saw it mentioned, but someone pointed out that if Romney tapped Rubio, Gov. Scott could appoint West to Rubio's Senate seat.
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Old 06-04-2012, 12:04   #33
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Nice article on Marco

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/0...g-respect.html

Sen. Marco Rubio earning respect in Senate for foreign-policy work

Political pundits focus on Sen. Marco Rubio as a vice-presidential shortlister, but Senate colleagues from both parties say the freshman Republican is becoming a key foreign-policy player.

Marco Rubio had just stepped off the plane from his first visit to Cuba, the homeland of his forebears, a land at the heart of his political identity.

Did he at least bring back a souvenir?

“No,” he said Tuesday evening.

No sand? No water? No rocks?

“No,” he smiled.

For Rubio, who traveled to Guantanamo Bay Naval Base as a member of the Senate’s Select Committee on Intelligence, the trip was all business. And that’s pretty typical for the Republican freshmen senator, according to colleagues like Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Chairman John Kerry and Rubio’s fellow foreign-policy hawk Sen. Joe Lieberman.

“Marco’s not a show horse,” Lieberman said. “He’s a workhorse.”

One day he’ll be giving a speech at the Brookings Institution in Washington or the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on Thursday. Next, he’ll be lugging Henry Kissinger’s “Diplomacy” tome to a Munich conference, stopping along the way in Madrid to chat with Spain’s prime minister in Spanish as his unilingual Anglo colleagues twiddle their thumbs. He also has travelled to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Malta, Libya, Haiti and Colombia.

The nation’s political chattering class focuses most heavily on Rubio as a vice-presidential shortlister, but his Senate colleagues can’t help but talk about him becoming a key foreign-policy player as a member of the intelligence and foreign-relations committees.

Lieberman and Kerry are Senate experts both in foreign policy and running in a presidential election. Kerry was the Democrats’ presidential nominee in 2004; Lieberman the Democrats’ vice-presidential candidate in 2000 before becoming an independent.

Both say Rubio is able to handle the rigors of the national campaign trail and the Senate at the same time.

“I’ve been impressed by his thinking — doing the homework necessary to earn the credibility with respect to your approach to things. I think that’s constructive,” Kerry said.

“A lot of the colleagues around here, obviously, are interested in substance and interested in people who do the work and are not impressed by people who are prone to play the political end of something and hold a press conference and not do the work,” Kerry said. “They want to see someone buckle down and learn the ropes. And I think he’s clearly been doing that in a very positive way.”

Rubio, though, still adheres to the party line.

His praise of President Obama is sparse — even amid seeming foreign-policy triumphs like the overthrow and death of Libyan dictator Moammar Gadhafi in October. At the time, Rubio and other Republicans gave Obama relatively little credit.

“Let’s give credit where credit is due: it’s the French and the British that led on this fight,” Rubio, echoing the Republican Party line, said at the time in a video clip mocked by The Daily Show’s John Stewart, who essentially accused Rubio and others of being neither gracious nor statesman like.

Asked Stewart: “What the f--- is wrong with you people? Are you that small?”

When asked about the lampooning on the popular liberal comedy show, Rubio said he stood by his criticisms, which were aimed more at Obama for not acting more quickly and decisively.

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Old 06-04-2012, 14:33   #34
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I can't remember if it was Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, but one of them mentioned last week that Mark Levin might be a potential running mate.
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Old 06-04-2012, 14:42   #35
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I can't remember if it was Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh, but one of them mentioned last week that Mark Levin might be a potential running mate.
It was Hannity and it was a joke.

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Old 06-04-2012, 15:26   #36
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It was Hannity and it was a joke.

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Ahh...thanks. I can never tell when he is joking.
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Old 06-04-2012, 18:27   #37
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I will mention it again, Rubio is not "Natural Born". Sauce for the Goose.
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Old 06-04-2012, 19:20   #38
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I will mention it again, Rubio is not "Natural Born". Sauce for the Goose.
That's still a requirement?
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I will mention it again, Rubio is not "Natural Born". Sauce for the Goose.
I'd like to see Rubio trot out his birth certificate from Cedars of Lebanon Hospital in Miami. The Constitution says "natural born" - it's the relevant US Code that defines what that term means and currently:

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The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a)a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Nowhere do I find that "but if your parents didn't get naturalized till 4 years later you can't be President."

OTOH, I didn't find anything in the many succeeding paragraphs that give any wiggle room for the current incumbent.
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I'd like to see Rubio trot out his birth certificate from Cedars of Lebanon Hospital in Miami. The Constitution says "natural born" - it's the relevant US Code that defines what that term means and currently:

Nowhere do I find that "but if your parents didn't get naturalized till 4 years later you can't be President."

OTOH, I didn't find anything in the many succeeding paragraphs that give any wiggle room for the current incumbent.
The current President, whether born in the US or not, is not "Natural Born" as defined by Supreme Court decision, yes ancient but still in force. His father was not a US citizen at time of his birth nor any other time. Mr Rubio has the same problem. US Citizen, not Natural Born. If the Conservatives are going to raise a stink over Obama then the same stink hits MR. Rubio. Sauce for the Gander.
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The current President, whether born in the US or not, is not "Natural Born" as defined by Supreme Court decision, yes ancient but still in force. His father was not a US citizen at time of his birth nor any other time. Mr Rubio has the same problem. US Citizen, not Natural Born. If the Conservatives are going to raise a stink over Obama then the same stink hits MR. Rubio. Sauce for the Gander.
No dispute, it already is being played by others. The issue of citizenship based on inheritance from a citizen parent (only rarely the mother), or simply by virtue of one's birth location, may be a rabbit hole the opposite camp doesn't want to go down.

SCOTUS has ruled on many aspects of citizenship via birthright (and women get the short-straw almost always), but they rule narrowly. I'd like to see that SCOTUS cite which completely trumps the current statute RE Mr. Rubio or the President. (I personally don't care if the current President can trace his roots back to the Mayflower; IF he was born in Hawaii, move on. If not, then he's unable to inherit citizenship from a father who clearly had no ties to the US.) Mr. Rubio appears to have been born in Miami. I'm not aware that SCOTUS has ruled sufficient to ditch the very first requirement in the law.

Many may not like it & want to change it but where one is born matters.
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Old 06-05-2012, 14:48   #42
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Some talk of Allen West...Click to sign your general endorsement of Allen West

I would like to see him as VP.
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Some talk of Allen West...Click to sign your general endorsement of Allen West

I would like to see him as VP.
Oh, yeah.

Anybody will do who's conservative enough to influence Romney from veering left.
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Hey, it's the 21st Century! You can pick your nose or you can pick your VP, but you can't...well...unless...

And so it goes...

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IMO Dr. Rice would also place an additional burden upon the ticket because of her strong religious views.

To many Americans, "separation of church and state" means that if a president regularly goes to church, he's trying to turn America into a theocracy.

If she were on the ticket, the GOP would need to be ready to push back against the misogyny Governor Palin and Senator Clinton received from the left back in 2008.

In any case, before the GOP puts an African American on the ticket, I think there needs to be some intense conversations if the party is really interesting in getting blacks to come back home. At the very least, some buttons on the control panel will need to be labeled clearly "DO NOT BREAK GLASS DO NOT PRESS BUTTON EVEN IN AN EMERGENCY."

Call it a hunch.
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