Ted Nugent: "I'll be Dead or in Jail if Obama Re-elected".

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Entire post.

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
― Robert A. Heinlein

I see your point, but I hope you're wrong.

Surely there are enough real Americans left to stop the rot.

[Barbarian]

I disagree.

I believe the Community Organizer and the democrats have already set in motion the complete destruction of capitalism and America as we currently know it. I believe that those that think socialism is a better system now outnumber those that work hard to make a living. I also believe that spending 5 trillion dollars that we don't have is the "straw" that will break this country. No one, left or right, is going to stop the handouts and risk ostracizing a very large voting segment.

The Community Organizer has certainly taken greater steps down that path, but I feel that it's a path America has been walking for a long time.

I believe it deals as much with human nature as anything else. For many, living the good life leads directly to complacency and loss of realistic perspective. Most Americans (at least most I know) can not even imagine having to fight for survival as the earliest Americans did. At one time, thought, making it through a winter was a substantial accomplishment.

I expect, in the end, it will be just another case of "you don't know what you got, 'till it's gone."

Surely there are enough real Americans left to stop the rot.

There's not much real Americans can do to stop it, right now. Slow it down, maybe, but I think it will get reeeeeal bad, before it actually gets any better.

[Dusty]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=all#pagebreak

If all of America were just like the great families at the National Rifle Association’s 141st annual members meeting in St. Louis last weekend, our country would be flawless. Surrounded by my family, friends, patriots, law enforcement and military heroes, veterans who have sacrificed dearly for freedom and the U.S. Constitution, the good will and positive energy in the air was cleansing, to say the least. We set another attendance record for the NRA and for St. Louis. It was downright perfect.

I spent all three days doing fundraisers for children’s and military charities, fondling much hardware, meeting legions of good folks at the Ted Nugent Ammo exhibit, and shaking hands with great Americans, Canadians, Brits and freedom-loving people from around the globe.

As always, I also conducted numerous media interviews providing unlimited self-evident truth and the inexhaustible evidence supporting the beauty of keeping and bearing arms for defense of self, family and liberty. Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French. Such an embarrassing, irresponsible, crime-inducing condition is inexcusable.

On Sunday, April 15, my killer Motor City soul brother, Derek St. Holmes, joined me onstage for an impromptu celebration of Motown classics and my fire-breathing soundtrack of defiance and God-given, constitutionally guaranteed individual rights. Much enthusiastic foot stomping and dancing erupted like it was the Fourth of July.

Introduced lovingly by the great Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbot, I took the stage, humbled yet proud that such a gathering of fine people would unite to hear the old guitar player raise hell for a better America.

My speech, just like every year at the NRA convention, was about the unlimited greatness of this sacred experiment in self-government, thanking the heroes of the U.S. military and law enforcement for their incredible sacrifices while waging war against the enemies of freedom, wherever they may slither.

But beyond all that is good, the real duty of “we the people” is to watch out for and fight against the bad and the ugly brought about by people of power who have historically abused it.

I named names. I called out Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. for his Fast and Furious scandal and other offenses. I railed against President Obama for engineering the dismantling of the once-greatest economy in the world. I reminded everyone how Hillary Rodham Clinton sides with the evil criminals of the United Nations instead of her own great nation. I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies’ fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level.

I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp ‘em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.

By no stretch of the imagination did I ever threaten anyone’s life, or hint of violence or mayhem. Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people.

I passionately rallied the American civilian troops to stand up for what is right and demand that the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights be once again the measure of all laws and policies in America.

Then in their ever-desperate scramble to divert attention from the crimes of their communist leaders, the Saul Alinsky “Rules for Radicals” left-wing media and terminally liberal Democrats circled their battlewagons of deceit and hate and unleashed their tsunami of lies about me and everything I said.

To me, my family and thinking America, the dysfunctional left-wing hate hysteria was laughable. I became the No. 1 global tweet entity, while every newspaper and America-hating television and radio gang literally tripped over themselves in a feeble attempt to out-lie each other.

I personally have never been prouder. If my daily activities and simple statements of truth and logic can cause such bizarre overreaction by so many, I need no more evidence that I am on the right track. When doing God’s work, the devils go bonzo. So be it.

I stand by my statements. The line is drawn in the American sand. I stand with patriots who love this country. We wake up early every day to put our hearts and souls into being assets for America, our fellow Americans, the people of the world and the good earth.

Those who despise me blindly chant Mao Zedong and Che Guevara rants, and the difference between our good and their bad is glaring.

Choose your side carefully, America. The shining city on the hill is under attack from within.

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[tonyz]

"I reminded good Americans that it isn’t the enemies’ fault for sneaking into the White House and abusing power, but rather we the people for allowing them to take corruption to a horrible new level." TN (quote from article cited above).

November can't come soon enough for the good of the country.

[Paslode]

(The Blaze/AP) — Rocker Ted Nugent has agreed to plead guilty to transporting a black bear he illegally killed in southeast Alaska back in May of 2009.

As part of the plea deal, Nugent must pay a $10,000 fine, not hunt or fish within Alaska or on any other U.S. Forest Service lands for one year, record a Public Service Announcement, and serve two years probation.

CNN reports that the public service announcement, “must be approved by federal prosecutors in Alaska, must be at least 30 to 60 seconds in length, and be broadcast every second week on his television show for one 12-month period.

“This PSA will discuss the importance of a hunter’s responsibility in knowing the rules and regulations of the hunting activities that they engage in, which is subject to the review and final approval, prior to any broadcast, by a representative of the United States Attorney’s Office in the District of Alaska,” the agreement states.

Nugent seemingly wounded a bear with a bow and arrow just days after bagging another bear, and Alaska law limits licensed hunters to one bear per hunting season.

Nugent made the admission in signing a plea agreement with federal prosecutors that was filed Friday in U.S. District Court, soon after he was questioned and cleared by the Secret Service over comments that he would be “dead or in jail” if Obama got re-elected.

Ted Nugent Agrees to Plead Guilty in Illegal Kill of Black Bear in Alaska

However, Nugent’s attorney maintains that his client was unaware of the law– which was introduced less than five years ago. He says he even watched video of the shot, and the arrow supposedly only “touched” the bear before sinking into the ground.

“There wasn’t any blood trail that they could find,” he said. “There was a little blood apparently at the spot, but nothing that indicated the bear was hard hit.”

Nugent is seemingly in good spirits despite the controversy he has been involved in recently, saying his meeting with the Secret Service could not have gone better.

“I thanked them for their service,” he said, “we shook hands and went about our business. God bless the good federal agents wherever they may be.”

However, some are wondering why an offense from 2009 is being brought up at this particular time.

Is it, some ask, part of a coordinated effort to silence the rock star? Or is it just coincidence?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ted-...ear-in-alaska/

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...4ea7908047d66c

[longrange1947]

And Fort Knox has bowed to pressure and dropped Nugent from its show.

http://news.yahoo.com/army-dumps-nug...203739107.html

[Doc Diego]

Team Sargeant nailed it.

[Richard]

America is not Greece and, unlike Greece, America does not rely upon its diasporal ancestry to try and keep it afloat.

Richard

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

A difference though is that the Greeks have the problem of very lax enforcement of their tax laws and also they don't produce much of anything. America, we have the problem of 50% of the country paying no federal income tax, but we still produce a ton of stuff.

Most of what I see on store shelves these days says Made in China, or Mexico, Indonesia, Republic of Vietnam, etc. On rare occasion the package may say Designed or Assembled in the USA....I am sure US corporations send production there because of the superior quality produced and the wonderful working conditions


Lets not forget we produce less and less in the coutry becaise of increasing regulation


Aside from 50% of the population being divested from the game, we have a very subjective enforcement of the Tax Law. If you are Tim Geitner, Charlie Rangel, Al Sharpton, etc. you get a Get Out of Jail Free card......most of us (for small amounts) get things repocessed and garnished. The Tax Code is so enormous no one knows what the hell is in it. Taxes shouldn't be a revenue stream used for funding your political asparations, personal wealth schemes and they are through the use of subsidies (aka re-distribution of wealth) and tax exemptions..


The plan for growth is a printing press.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Dusty

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...=all#pagebreak

I begged everyone to register and vote, because warriors give up their lives so that we can. I spotlighted cockroaches and rallied those who care to stomp ‘em out at the voting booth in November, as is my duty as an American.
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Ted Nugent Rocks, IMHO. Very well said.

Holly

[Box]

I don't see how this particular voting cycle has anything whatsoever to do with America electing a president. It has turned into a choice about whether or not America wishes to remove a president from office. A vote in any election should never REALLY be about who the voter thinks is the single best guy for the job. Sometimes the bigger question isn't "who is the best guy" the question is, “what is the best selection for the health of the country.”

...or as the current POTUS has said, you could just "eat your peas". Then again, with the economy the way it is, with gas crawling past four bucks per gallon; who can afford peas to begin with.


I see the ballot breaking out like this:
Any vote for the following candidates will allow the current POTUS to remain for another term:

-Obama/Biden (Dimocrites)
-Tom Hoefling (Americas Party)
-Virgil Goode (Constitution Party)
-Any of the Actresses, Comedians, activists, festival promoters or retired state employees running on the ever popular green party ticket. (Well, maybe Rosanne Barr really IS electable)
-Any of the various and sundry Libertarian candidates that usually just come across as little more than fiscally semi-conservatives that want to legalize drugs (not a judgment, just an opinion)
-Pete Lindsay from the Party of Socialism and Liberation
-Jack Fellure from the Prohibition Party
-Stewart Alexander from the socialist party USA
-Jerry White from the socialist equality party
-The ever present write in candidates like Mick E. Mouse or OJ Simpson (or Homer Simpson for that matter)

--------------------------------

Any vote for the following candidate is a vote that will result in removal of the current administration from power:

Mitt Romney (Republi-can’t Party)


So please… vote your conscience this year, if you think Rosanne Barr is good for America, go ahead and vote for her, who cares whether or not she is electable. Send your write-in vote for ‘E. Jack Eulate’, surely he can produce a wave of success for the nation. Stand high on your principles, just know that your “don’t blame me-I voted Libertarian” bumper sticker won’t mean dick when the next conversation with the Russians goes like this…
…”I told you I’d have MORE flexibility after my re-election! MWUA-HAHA, MWUA-HAHA-HAHA”



Vote your conscience or “eat your peas”; just my two cents, I could be wrong.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

I don't see how this particular voting cycle has anything whatsoever to do with America electing a president. It has turned into a choice about whether or not America wishes to remove a president from office. A vote in any election should never REALLY be about who the voter thinks is the single best guy for the job. Sometimes the bigger question isn't "who is the best guy" the question is, “what is the best selection for the health of the country.”

...or as the current POTUS has said, you could just "eat your peas". Then again, with the economy the way it is, with gas crawling past four bucks per gallon; who can afford peas to begin with.


I see the ballot breaking out like this:
Any vote for the following candidates will allow the current POTUS to remain for another term:

-Obama/Biden (Dimocrites)
-Tom Hoefling (Americas Party)
-Virgil Goode (Constitution Party)
-Any of the Actresses, Comedians, activists, festival promoters or retired state employees running on the ever popular green party ticket. (Well, maybe Rosanne Barr really IS electable)
-Any of the various and sundry Libertarian candidates that usually just come across as little more than fiscally semi-conservatives that want to legalize drugs (not a judgment, just an opinion)
-Pete Lindsay from the Party of Socialism and Liberation
-Jack Fellure from the Prohibition Party
-Stewart Alexander from the socialist party USA
-Jerry White from the socialist equality party
-The ever present write in candidates like Mick E. Mouse or OJ Simpson (or Homer Simpson for that matter)

--------------------------------

Any vote for the following candidate is a vote that will result in removal of the current administration from power:

Mitt Romney (Republi-can’t Party)


So please… vote your conscience this year, if you think Rosanne Barr is good for America, go ahead and vote for her, who cares whether or not she is electable. Send your write-in vote for ‘E. Jack Eulate’, surely he can produce a wave of success for the nation. Stand high on your principles, just know that your “don’t blame me-I voted Libertarian” bumper sticker won’t mean dick when the next conversation with the Russians goes like this…
…”I told you I’d have MORE flexibility after my re-election! MWUA-HAHA, MWUA-HAHA-HAHA”



Vote your conscience or “eat your peas”; just my two cents, I could be wrong.

lol Yep.

[Richard]

Personally, I view this election as more of a 'firing' than a 'hiring' exercise, with the current CEO being relieved by his Board (the voting public) and MR2 being brought in as the interim CEO until the Board can find a new CEO to bring the organization back from its current tendency to follow a business model which focuses on little but monkey business.

To that end, I'm currently planning on supporting MR2 as the 'interim' CEO of this organization.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard

Personally, I view this election as more of a 'firing' than a 'hiring' exercise, with the current CEO being relieved by his Board (the voting public) and MR2 being brought in as the interim CEO until the Board can find a new CEO to bring the organization back from its current tendency to follow a business model which focuses on little but monkey business.

To that end, I'm currently planning on supporting MR2 as the 'interim' CEO of this organization.

And so it goes...

Richard

Justify it however you want.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Stuff on store shelves are mostly cheap products that are more cost-effective to have manufactured overseas. For example, thin-margin products such as toys, consumer electronics, and shoes. But higher-margin, sophisticated products, such as various sophisticated componentry, machinery, equipment, medical devices, industrial and military electronics, semiconductors, machine tools, etc...we make a lot of here. Not the kinds of things one will find on the shelves at the local Target store or Wal-Mart, but still very crucial to the functioning of the global economy.

Also, by "produce," I mean both goods and services. America produces lots of both.



No disagreement there.

We're always close to being on the same page

The problem is stores (Monopolies) like Target, Walmart, Lowes and Home Depot are were most people spend there money, and while it is more cost effective for a period of time, and it has allowed for people to 'seemingly' get more for their money and not feel the pinch on their wallets by selling cheap......Cheap is a short term fix to keep people happy and buying products, and it keep David Glass rolling in dough by pawning goods made from 5 cent slave labor instead of $10-20 per hour Americans. In the long term it equates to job loss, dwindling consumers, loss of industry and a stagnate economy.....all of which eventually ripples through the entire economy.

The service sector is in many cases (I think most) is a non-essential convenience...... Fast Food, landscapers, lawn mowing, maid services etc. If you don't have consumers with jobs those services are useless. The service sector is a way for you and me to make our lives easier, or a means pad our wallets with 20-30k per year by eliminating a job and telling Bob to find a new job.

High Tech stuff......more and more is made in China. There is even a thread or two on this board pertaining to trojan laced chips that the DoD bought through a third party (a Service Provider so to speak). And there have been questions raised as to whether the Drone the Iranians have possession of might have something to do with outsourced chips.

On the road we are headed....the only thing we will have to sell is natural resources oil, natural gas, coal, timber, etc. Which the Government will have hijacked from private enterprise through regulation and laws.

And course labor will be cheap, because their are few private sector jobs. And because gasoline became cost prohibitive few will drive, so we will have to ride the government owned high speed rail to the Government labor camp, were we mine coal for the government which they sell overseas to another country......that way Nancy, Harry and the rest of the Politico's keep their jobs and their lifestyles.