04-22-2012, 15:51
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She did date Mahler, though...  |
I had no idea she was THAT old! 
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04-22-2012, 19:26
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I probably should have said a sentence or two.....actually I am not a fan of Ann, but I found her premise in this blog interesting. (And this is about the calmest I've ever seen her write.) I posted it to see if it would provoke discussion, even though I know she is not a historian and the odds are high she has gotten some of her 'facts' wrong.  |
Even if only one or two of her "facts" she is way ahead of MSNBC and CBS combined.
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04-23-2012, 14:22
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Even if only one or two of her "facts" she is way ahead of MSNBC and CBS combined. |
Now for some cross-thread points
I posted this some time back, most of it concurs with Ann's post.
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04-23-2012, 20:05
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'Someone Kill the Judge'
Aside from the Twitter Lynch Mob we now have death threats against a Judge.....wasn't Hal Turner incarcerated for verbal death threats against a Judge?
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Daniel Halper
April 23, 2012 11:38 AM
George Zimmerman, the accused murderer of Florida teen Trayvon Martin, has been released from jail on bail. Meeting Zimmerman's release are calls (on Twitter) for him to be killed. As Twitchy reports, "Twitter lynch mob: George Zimmerman is out on bail? Let’s kill him!"
But it's not just Zimmerman who is at risk. In fact, there's already been a call on Twitter for the murder of the judge, Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester, who agreed to release Zimmerman on bail.
Writing on a Twitter, someone named @Rick_Cobain writes, "Zimmerman released from jail someone kill the judge!!!!!"
Zimmerman released from jail someone kill the judge!!!!!
— (@Rick_Cobain) April 23, 2012
Already 25 other people have retweeted @Rick_Cobain's call for murder.
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04-23-2012, 20:23
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Aside from the Twitter Lynch Mob we now have death threats against a Judge.....wasn't Hal Turner incarcerated for verbal death threats against a Judge?
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The answer to your question can be found here <<LINK>>.
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04-23-2012, 22:39
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The answer to your question can be found here <<LINK>>.
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My apologies Sig, it was a pink question
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04-24-2012, 06:48
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Man Beaten By Mob, In Critical Condition
The firestorm continues to brew.....and the DoJ is still on a coffee break.
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By: WKRG Staff | WKRG
Published: April 23, 2012
MOBILE, Alabama --
Mobile police need your help to catch a mob that beat Matthew Owens so badly that he's in critical condition.
According to police, Owens fussed at some kids playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive about 8:30 Saturday night. They say the kids left and a group of adults returned, armed with everything but the kitchen sink.
Police tell News 5 the suspects used chairs, pipes and paint cans to beat Owens.
Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, saw the attack. "It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed." Parker says 20 people, all African American, attacked her brother on the front porch of his home, using "brass buckles, paint cans and anything they could get their hands on."
Police will only say "multiple people" are involved.
What Parker says happened next could make the fallout from the brutal beating even worse. As the attackers walked away, leaving Owen bleeding on the ground, Parker says one of them said "Now thats justice for Trayvon." Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police say was shot and killed February 26 by neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman in Samford, Florida.
Police canvassed the area, but did not find any suspects. They're asking anyone with information to call them at 251-208-7211, Crime Stoppers at 251-208-7000, or text a tip to 274637 and include the keyword CRIME 411.
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05-05-2012, 09:33
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05-08-2012, 15:16
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House to Vote on Trayvon Ammendment
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...von-amendment/
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.
"'Shoot-first' laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldn't be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people," said Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation. "This is no different than withholding transportation funds from states that don't enforce seat-belt laws."
Florida's law, which allows residents to use force in response to an attack without first having to retreat, has come under scrutiny after the nationally-polarizing death of teenager Trayvon Martin. George Zimmermann, a neighborhood watch volunteer, has been charged with murder in the case.
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05-08-2012, 15:30
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....deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted....
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WTF?!
Obviously, we need more victim deaths....
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05-08-2012, 16:41
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I would like to see the stats behind those numbers.
How many of the killings have been tried as wrongful?
If there has been no real increase, sounds like the citizens of Florida are doing a good job and saving the state money.
This bill is not about the law. It is about pandering to certain groups for votes.
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05-08-2012, 18:00
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I would like to see the stats behind those numbers.
How many of the killings have been tried as wrongful?
If there has been no real increase, sounds like the citizens of Florida are doing a good job and saving the state money.
This bill is not about the law. It is about pandering to certain groups for votes.
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Raul Grijalva and facts! Ha!
"Statistics!? Statistics?! We don't need no stinking statistics!"
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05-08-2012, 19:00
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/...von-amendment/
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.
"'Shoot-first' laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldn't be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people," said Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation. "This is no different than withholding transportation funds from states that don't enforce seat-belt laws."
Florida's law, which allows residents to use force in response to an attack without first having to retreat, has come under scrutiny after the nationally-polarizing death of teenager Trayvon Martin. George Zimmermann, a neighborhood watch volunteer, has been charged with murder in the case.
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Again, a Minnesota politician embarrasses the state  . Keith Ellison should focus his CAIR more on real problems - beginning with the man in the mirror.
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05-08-2012, 20:19
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"'Shoot-first' laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldn't be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people," said Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation. "This is no different than withholding transportation funds from states that don't enforce seat-belt laws."
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Maybe they'll withhold funding of BATFE operations here in Arizona.
Or, maybe they'll withhold funding of border enforcement.
The congress can take their federal funding, roll it up real tight, and...
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05-08-2012, 21:06
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