Wear and tear, then and now???????

[Dusty]

I think injuries have remained fairly consistent all the way back to the Spartans, but the snivelling has inceased exponentially with each generation.

[tom kelly]

Originally Posted by Dusty

I think injuries have remained fairly consistent all the way back to the Spartans, but the snivelling has inceased exponentially with each generation.

How many parachute jumps with PAE bags, (with 300 lbs. medical equip. & supplies) main chute + reserve + weapon & basic load of ammo 120 rounds, 2 canteens of water & helmet" steel pot") Total wgt. incl. your own body wgt.(mine was 165 lbs.) was close to 500 lbs.+ hitting the ground at 27ft./sec. DID the Spartans make? The main concern was not the hard impact but getting twisted up to the connector link; which would likely cause a malfunction with the main chute and probably the reserve. Fortunately I did not have to make very many of these jumps, but one of them on Yomitan DZ on Okinawa, the old Japanese coral airbase busted me up. Bottom Line in 2008 had a bi-lateral knee replacement.
PS. The CG. of the 173 Abn. Birgade Francis Kelly (no relation) broke his leg during a "Hollywood" jump on Yomitan and as a result every jump he made while stationed on Okinawa was a water jump hence he earned the un-official nickname "Splash Kelly"....Regard's, TK

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by tom kelly

How many parachute jumps with PAE bags, (with 300 lbs. medical equip. & supplies) main chute + reserve + weapon & basic load of ammo 120 rounds, 2 canteens of water & helmet" steel pot") Total wgt. incl. your own body wgt.(mine was 165 lbs.) was close to 500 lbs.+ hitting the ground at 27ft./sec. DID the Spartans make? The main concern was not the hard impact but getting twisted up to the connector link; which would likely cause a malfunction with the main chute and probably the reserve. Fortunately I did not have to make very many of these jumps, but one of them on Yomitan DZ on Okinawa, the old Japanese coral airbase busted me up. Bottom Line in 2008 had a bi-lateral knee replacement.
PS. The CG. of the 173 Abn. Birgade Francis Kelly (no relation) broke his leg during a "Hollywood" jump on Yomitan and as a result every jump he made while stationed on Okinawa was a water jump hence he earned the un-official nickname "Splash Kelly"....Regard's, TK

How many Persians did you kill while in testudo?

I hear you, Brother. I've got a f.cked up knee, 5 broken vertebrae, a shoulder that's been dislocated 4 times, broken ankle, hand and finger, three holes in my back, etc. I've run more than a few miles with big poundage in my ruck.

My point is that everybody gets f.cked up, you just seem to hear about it more, lately.

[greenberetTFS]

tom kelly

Some slight changes to your original post,but so very close needing just some miner modifications....... How many parachute jumps with PAE bags, (with 300 lbs. & supplies) main chute + reserve + weapon & basic load of ammo 240 rounds, 2 canteens of water & helmet" steel pot") Total wgt. incl. your own body wgt.(mine was 165 lbs.,mine was 240lbs)was close to 570 lbs.+ hitting the ground at 27 Ft./sec. DID the Spartans make? The main concern was not the hard impact but getting twisted up to the connector link; which would likely cause a malfunction with the main chute and probably the reserve. Fortunately I did not have to make very many of these jumps......I did approx. 7 of them and all with the 11th ABN Div....... They jumped us with full gear on every f**ken jump we made........ They were so damn gung-ho,and one of the toughest outfit I ever served in..........

Big Teddy