Black militia group wants to arrest Trayvon Martin shooter

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Or do they want to reach across the aisle and start building coalitions to address issues that impact the every day lives of diverse groups of people?My $0.02.

Congress critters do things all the time that affect the every day lives of people; whether in a positive or negative way is gonna vary and, imo, usually done with a politically expedient & reactive bent. There is a character deficit in my view, fostered over time by acceptance that nannies know best. Even under best circumstances no one is likely to alter the fact that constituents send representatives to represent them for different interests. The precept for that interest in many cases may need to be altered; especially where sloth collides with initiative.

Mathematically & legislatively I'd suggest that the Fed could forget what lane they're in, they should just put the car back in the garage for awhile. That 1787 charter can cut both ways.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

The political right rests the legitimacy of its vision for America on the history of this country. Whenever that history is used selectively and certain chapters and interpretations are dismissed, the political right undermines its intellectual credibility.

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Honestly, there are too many hypothetical/what ifs in this particular thread, if not in American political discourse more generally. There are plenty of actual issues to address in the here and now without resorting to the history of what might happen if John Doe did X, Y, or Z.

Originally Posted by Sigaba

...Or do they want to reach across the aisle and start building coalitions to address issues that impact the every day lives of diverse groups of people?

As relates to the Sanford shooting, the NBPP (a racist hate group) issues a bounty (wanted dead or alive reportedly on a poster - certainly a call for capture on film) on a citizen and the president and the AG are now stunningly silent.

Does anyone really believe that our nation's leaders (President Obama or AG Holder, specifically) would remain silent if a white racist hate group did the same thing as the NBPP? Racism is racism and it is wrong and it works both ways.

Why not condemn the actions of the NBPP and the race baiters? Is this current NBPP statement not "a teachable moment." Does not the left undermine its intellectual credibility when it fails to call out their own? Are whites not part of the diverse groups of people of which you speak? In this instance can the president not reach "across the aisle?"

This could shape up to be one long, hot summer - roll on November.

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by tonyz

This could shape up to be one long, hot summer - roll on November.

That could be someone's re-election plan...

[Dohhunter]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

.....it is difficult to see how one could make a historically credible argument that the Nazis got anything right.

The G/K43 (with the exception of some gas piston gremlins).

/derail

[Dusty]

Sigaba, take your Gandhi-goes-to-Harvard BS somewhere else.

Militant blacks are making threatening gestures which are setting off warning signs among people who are aware and don't trust the administration to be fair; it's that simple. We don't need a f.cking historical tome written behind it.

If you want to get in a bus, sing We Shall Overcome and hold up an Ankh, that's fine. Some of us are getting a premonition of trouble, and we don't handle it by typing and snivelling about the lack of chronologically correct historical continuity.

You apparently wouldn't recognize hate if it bit you in the ass. There are several crowds of black militants out there right now who hate whites, and they don't fear any legal repercussion because of Obama's statements and Holder's lack of action.

[kgoerz]

Originally Posted by Destrier

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/georg...lance-16024475

Link to vid arriving at police station.

Hard to see wounds with the ABC logo and he would have apparently at this time have already seen the EMT at the scene, but one Police officer looks very intently at the back of zimmerman's head.

The news was all over the fact that you cant see his wounds in the tape. Police won't transport a suspect that is still bleeding. Emt's must stabilize all suspects or order them taken to a hospital. The media is un watchable at times.
Another one. CNN was in an uproar because Zimmernams friend waited a month to come forward as a witness. He was interviewed with in days of the shooting. He only waited a month to talk to the media...Not the police.

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Given the end result of the Second World War and the subsequent pillaging and division of Germany, it is difficult to see how one could make a historically credible argument that the Nazis got anything right.

They may have failed overall, they criminally used their assets and knowledge, they brought death and destruction on a world wide scale....but that doesn't invalidate their concepts and innovations.

Blitzkrieg, Rockets, Jets, Intelligence, Encryption, Armor, Tanks and Machine Guns just to name a few. They were adept in propaganda, stirring up and controlling their masses.

They were innovators of many things we use today. And as with most innovations there seems to be a Good and Evil associated with it.



As it relates to this topic...

If Rev. Al and the NBPP were to gain control of the streets in Florida I would bet money Zimmerman, guilty or not guilty, the State would concede to their wishes and Zimmerman would be sacrificed.....in other words the Mob rules.

We already have seen mindless crowds chanting Black Power and leaders calling for the head of a 'White' man .......reminds me of long forgotten crowds chanting Zeig Heil and Leaders demonizing Jews.


How a summer of protest relates to this election cycle.....

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

That could be someone's re-election plan...

And as detestable as Goebbels was, his eery words are words of warning.

[Dohhunter]

That video is the epitome of "you see what you want to see", for either camp.

Media at its best, an oxymoron in itself.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by tonyz

...issues a bounty (wanted dead or alive reportedly on a poster - certainly a call for capture on film) on a citizen...

Reportedly? Everything I've seen on this - including their official circular which is posted in their Spring 2012 'The New Black Panther' newspaper on their web-site as well as both their written and verbal proclamations - calls for "The lawful citizen's arrest." Typical 'guerrilla theater' from the 60's...and now magnified through the efforts of the MSM, talk show pundits, politically motivated opportunists, and the blogosphere.

Reading the NBPP's newspaper is interesting and, when it comes to the current POTUS, sounds as if the ABO crowd is writing their material for them, too.

I also went to Wikipedia seeking a link to the NBPP's web-site. Scrolling down to the External links and then clicking on Official website links to this: http://www.kfc.com/ NOT COOL!

It is time to 'let it go' - to quit fueling the embers of social discord with inflammatory blather - to let the system work through it all - and to await the results.

Richard

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Richard

I also went to Wikipedia seeking a link to the NBPP's web-site. Scrolling down to the External links and then clicking on Official website links to this:

Posting that link will diffuse the situation and "let's it go?"

I think that we all know that there is more than enough hate to go around.

It appears to me that most folks are focusing on THIS case in THIS thread and the statements made by representatives of the NBPP related thereto.

Google them...post them...YouTube is full of statements from the NBPP. I won't post here and "fuel the embers of social discord."

The silence from Holder and Obama denouncing the race baiters and hate speech is deafening.

Yes, the dearth of leadership at the time of this "teachable moment" strongly suggests to me - anybody but Obama. YMMV. Obama and Holder had the perfect opportunity to step up and demonstrate that racism is racism and will not be tolerated. THAT would go a long way to quit fueling the embers of racism and social discord rather than inflammatory links and blather. On that, I hope we can agree.

Originally Posted by Richard

It 's time to 'let it go' - to quit fueling the embers of social discord with inflammatory blather - to let the system work through it all - and to await the results.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Richard

Reportedly? Richard

Just grabbed the first link available there are many, many reports.

http://www.jillstanek.com/wp/wp-cont...1.30.23-PM.png

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard;442162
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It is time to 'let it go' - to quit fueling the embers of social discord with inflammatory blather - to let the system work through it all - and to await the results.

Richard[/COLOR]

I assume you're addressing Spike Lee, the hoodie ex-Blank Panther who got reprimanded on the Hill, Sharpton and Jackson, Maxine Watters, the NBPP and the New Black Militia, since I haven't heard, seen or read any "inflammatory blather" from anybody else, yet.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by tonyz

The silence from Holder and Obama denouncing the race baiters and hate speech is deafening.

To me, the silence from the milquetoast, head-in-the-sand, middle-of-the-road, non-committal imbeciles who allowed him to be elected is deafening.

[Don]

Originally Posted by Paslode

It must be time to derail Trayvan Martin thread

AKV,

Being a POS doesn't invalidate being correct......and the Nazi's were on the mark on many things like Rockets and Propaganda. Von Braun was a Nazi, Jews were forced to build his masterpieces, but his services were useful so his words are deemed A-OKAY!



Despite what most, including myself think of most of the the Nazi's, including Goebbels he made a good point in that remark. You can remove his name and it is still valid point, leave his name in and the words become more sinister.

And I believe his idea crept into the last election with the foggy eyed masses and hasn't left, you are seeing it action as we speak not just in Florida but across the land.

It's community organizing, the Adminstration, The Media, the TSA, The Tea Party, SEIU, NEA, NBPP, Rev. Al, Jesse Jackson, The Occupy Movement, etc...etc....

Goebbels would be proud of their work.


And the question is, come November who's going to control the street?

I missed this yesterday...I call "Godwins Law" with this post. Remarkably funny how accurate it is.

[tonyz]

Originally Posted by Dusty

To me, the silence from the milquetoast, head-in-the-sand, middle-of-the-road, non-committal imbeciles who allowed him to be elected is deafening.

Maybe, now, they can get over the historical moment of the Obama presidency and admit that Obama's policies are failing miserably - his leadership on difficult issues nonexistent - it is sometimes very difficult for some to admit that they could be so wrong about one anointed by the vast majority of the press and pundits. It is easier to attack, misdirect, deny and otherwise complicate an already complex situation.