Black militia group wants to arrest Trayvon Martin shooter

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Actually I was referring to the 1968 riots.

That was similar in that a light skinned individual shot and killed a darker skinned individual.

At the time, the Blacks seemed to be upset at the death of Dr. King, I say seemed because I was only 5-6 years old and wasn't quite sure what was going on.

What really didn't make much sense was that the Blacks burned and looted their own neighborhoods....that still doesn't make sense to me.

Is forecasting the future behavior of a cohort Americans based upon the conclusions one drew as a child an intellectually sustainable practice?

[akv]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

In what ways were the circumstances of the Detroit riot of 1967 at all similar to the events unfolding now in Florida?

My $.02 the only similarity is the dream from MLK's speech is still a work in progress. In 2012 America should be well past this race crap. Our enemies abroad are happy to kill Americans of any color.

It starts with divisive leadership from the top, Obama is a mixed child, if the POTUS absolutely has to chirp on this issue, while his son could look like Trayvon Martin, he also has uncles whose skin tone is closer to Mr. Zimmerman's. A real leader would tell all Americans to calm down, and wait for the facts.

Ironically we see the same feelings of discrimination on both sides, whites particularly males sick of the PC double standard, and blacks who see this incident as reinforcement of that same old ugly discrimination back in the day.

I for one wish more American leaders of every race would blast the Al Sharpton's, NBPP, and Jesse Jackson's for preying upon the premature hype of this incident for political and material profit. IMHO these hate mongering types are a greater threat to Americans of color than the KKK could ever be.

We are still waiting on the facts here, Mr. Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty, if he is found guilty, plenty of Americans across racial lines, myself included, will want justice, just as mourning for Dr. King was not confined to the Black community.

Regardless of the outcome the Martin Family has lost their son, and Mr. Zimmerman has to live his days knowing he killed a 17 year old boy, even if it is ruled self defense.

This is an American Tragedy, American elites across political, racial, and religious lines need to step up and squash this fear and hate mongering, before it gets any uglier.

[BOfH]

Originally Posted by plato

U.S. Senate - POLITICS
Schumer calls for federal probe of 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Florida shooting

Sen. Chuck Schumer is calling on the Justice Department to investigate so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws following the fatal shooting of an unarmed Florida teen.
"These laws seem to be encouraging vigilantism by allowing individuals to use deadly force as a first resort," Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement.
Schumer asked Holder's department to probe whether the laws "are creating more violence than they are preventing," and whether potential murders are "going unprosecuted" because of them.
Schumer cited statistics in Florida showing that before the law was approved, the state averaged 12 justifiable homicides per year. The average subsequent to the law's enactment was 33.


Gee, Chuck. Can you spell "Google"?

In the 10 years before the law, Florida had 13,083 murders. In the 10 years following, there were 9510. That's a big drop.

Forming a group, giving yourself a "cool" name and starting a 5000 idiot manhunt encourages vigilantism. Not going there, Senator?

Sadly, years from now, when few of us can recall the names of the two individuals, many will still remember the great news coverage given to that bag of Skittles. WTF?

The usual "guns kill, not people" BS from NY politicians. Of course NYC is sooo safe, thanks to COMPSTAT and MA(i)G, no one gets shot here.

MOO: This is going to be a very divisive issue for Obama, given the timing. Enough MSM outlets have reported Z's race correctly, though the bigger ones have been omitting or twisting it. Either way, no matter what the outcome of the investigation is, some group (or another) is going to be pissed, and look to O to fix it. He can't afford to lose either voting block (African American or Latino), and blaming the guns might cost him the "hunting" states(which he probably lost already), so O and Co needs to sweep this under the rug, and fast.

ETA: Like many previous posters, waiting on the investigation, there is too little information available to say what happened, who might be at fault and if the underlying laws needs review...

My .002

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Is forecasting the future behavior of a cohort Americans based upon the conclusions one drew as a child an intellectually sustainable practice?

It is history and it has repeated itself more than once.

[plato]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

In what ways were the circumstances of the Detroit riot of 1967 at all similar to the events unfolding now in Florida?

In 1967, two years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, hopes for rapid improvement for the American black had fallen to dispair (in Detroit at least). Disrespect and distrust toward "the establishment" and the police were severe. Unemployment was high, and the American dream seemed unobtainable.

The difference between that and today is that the election of Pres. Obama is the event that raised the hopes of the community, giving them further to fall as life in the community continued to slide downhill. The other factors remained the same. Only the "trigger" changed.

[plato]

Originally Posted by BOfH

The usual "guns kill, not people" BS from NY politicians. Of course NYC is sooo safe, thanks to COMPSTAT and MA(i)G, no one gets shot here.

My .002

It's amazing that those types haven't heard of IEDs.

Imagine a fellow who wants to get rid of his lovers husband. There are so many ways to do that I won't even start a list. Still, if he can't do it with a gun, he simply gives up, sits at home and pouts? Yeah, right.

[Iraqgunz]

TS,

Don't we have a similar law in AZ? Personally the Feds can go smoke their crack pipes because this is clearly a state's rights issue and they have jack shit to say about it.

Holder- go pound some sand.

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

You know if I was this guys bodyguard I'd just walk off the job...... how anyone can guard some of the left-wing wackos is beyond me. Hey Chuck, hows that no guns in NYC working for ya? Same as Chicago and Wash DC I hear....... I think I'll go purchase another gun tomorrow and a few thousand rounds of ammo.


U.S. Senate - POLITICS
Schumer calls for federal probe of 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Florida shooting

Published March 25, 2012
| FoxNews.com


Sen. Chuck Schumer is calling on the Justice Department to investigate so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws following the fatal shooting of an unarmed Florida teen.

The law, a version of which was enacted in Florida in 2005, allows for individuals to use deadly force -- even outside their home -- if they feel threatened.

Since the shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, Republican leaders have called the killing a tragedy but argue that the law in question did not actually apply to this case.

Still, Schumer wrote in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder on Sunday that the laws themselves should be investigated.

"These laws seem to be encouraging vigilantism by allowing individuals to use deadly force as a first resort," Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement.

Schumer asked Holder's department to probe whether the laws "are creating more violence than they are preventing," and whether potential murders are "going unprosecuted" because of them.

He estimated that 23 states have some form of this law.

Schumer cited statistics in Florida showing that before the law was approved, the state averaged 12 justifiable homicides per year. The average subsequent to the law's enactment was 33.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1qB6t2bhA

[Iraqgunz]

A narrative from Sanford PD's initial response is available on the net. From what I read it would seem as if Zimmerman did have wounds about the face and head and that his back was wet and covered in grass as if he had been on his back.

[Iraqgunz]

Some interesting reading.

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...-a-drug-dealer

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...l%20Report.pdf

http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...n_shooting.pdf

[Richard]

I'm awaiting the Grand Jury's findings - it meets to hear the case on 10 April - it's going to be a long couple of weeks of political, and social and mass media driven drivel until then...

Richard

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Richard

I'm awaiting the Grand Jury's findings - it meets to hear the case on 10 April - it's going to be a long couple of weeks of political, and social and mass media driven drivel until then...

Richard

Don't you love the internet.. Everyone turns into a Shirley Holmes..

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...-a-drug-dealer


The Grand Jury can't get here fast enough...

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Iraqgunz

A narrative from Sanford PD's initial response is available on the net. From what I read it would seem as if Zimmerman did have wounds about the face and head and that his back was wet and covered in grass as if he had been on his back.

That would seem logical, but we'll have to wait for the experts and a jury to decide if the injuries are consistent with being attacked. It is possible he could have run into and/or fell into something and received the trauma vaguely described by the press.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

Is forecasting the future behavior of a cohort Americans based upon the conclusions one drew as a child an intellectually sustainable practice?

If you poked a yellowjacket nest as a kid and got your ass stung, was that intellectually sustainable?

[Dohhunter]

See post #34 re: BO and his desire to increase his brood.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Dusty

If you poked a yellowjacket nest as a kid and got your ass stung, was that intellectually sustainable?

Candidate for most quotable sigline.