Black militia group wants to arrest Trayvon Martin shooter

[Peregrino]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Hopefully, it won't escalate to the point to where anybody else has to get dead.

Unfortunately, too many bottom feeders with an agenda are fanning the flames at a time when there are enough societal problems simmering just below the boiling point that a conflagration is just waiting for a spark. I'm hoping for a fair and impartial investigation - but I'm not holding my breath. If the shooting is eventually ruled justified, a lot of people need to be prepared for race riots on an order that will make previous examples seem like non-events. MOO - YMMV

What happens if it goes to trial, everybody gets non-stop newsfeeds all summer pumping up emotions as gas prices and unemployment both spike, and a not guilty verdict is announced on a sweltering August afternoon?

[plato]

U.S. Senate - POLITICS
Schumer calls for federal probe of 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Florida shooting

Sen. Chuck Schumer is calling on the Justice Department to investigate so-called "Stand Your Ground" laws following the fatal shooting of an unarmed Florida teen.
"These laws seem to be encouraging vigilantism by allowing individuals to use deadly force as a first resort," Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement.
Schumer asked Holder's department to probe whether the laws "are creating more violence than they are preventing," and whether potential murders are "going unprosecuted" because of them.
Schumer cited statistics in Florida showing that before the law was approved, the state averaged 12 justifiable homicides per year. The average subsequent to the law's enactment was 33.


Gee, Chuck. Can you spell "Google"?

In the 10 years before the law, Florida had 13,083 murders. In the 10 years following, there were 9510. That's a big drop.

Forming a group, giving yourself a "cool" name and starting a 5000 idiot manhunt encourages vigilantism. Not going there, Senator?

Sadly, years from now, when few of us can recall the names of the two individuals, many will still remember the great news coverage given to that bag of Skittles. WTF?

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Unfortunately, too many bottom feeders with an agenda are fanning the flames at a time when there are enough societal problems simmering just below the boiling point that a conflagration is just waiting for a spark. I'm hoping for a fair and impartial investigation - but I'm not holding my breath. If the shooting is eventually ruled justified, a lot of people need to be prepared for race riots on an order that will make previous examples seem like non-events. MOO - YMMV

I remember the 1960's Riots and the local demarcation line, it was a scary no mans land for quite awhile.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Peregrino

Unfortunately, too many bottom feeders with an agenda are fanning the flames at a time when there are enough societal problems simmering just below the boiling point that a conflagration is just waiting for a spark. I'm hoping for a fair and impartial investigation - but I'm not holding my breath. If the shooting is eventually ruled justified, a lot of people need to be prepared for race riots on an order that will make previous examples seem like non-events. MOO - YMMV

What happens if it goes to trial, everybody gets non-stop newsfeeds all summer pumping up emotions as gas prices and unemployment both spike, and a not guilty verdict is announced on a sweltering August afternoon?

They'll do a reverse OJ.

[Destrier]

Originally Posted by 99meters

Reaper, it is the law-abiding gun owners who feel that their gun qualifies them to play cop that screw things up. If you want to play cop have more than one tool ( baton, pepper, taser) that way u don't shoot unarmed (kids) suspects during a confrontation.

This comment makes it sound like there is some kind of epidemic of law abiding gun owners walking around playing cop shooting children.

Every report/set of statistics that I have ever seen; indicates that law abiding gun owners that carry concealed with a permit have one of the lowest rates of criminal activity in the nation.

I also do not see how one can state that in this case, having other options available would have resulted in a different outcome. Maybe? Maybe not? I was not there.

I am still holding out for a full investigation to be revealed publicly rather than the selected sound bites from the media.

[plato]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I remember the 1960's Riots and the local demarcation line, it was a scary no mans land for quite awhile.

I was in Detroit the night the riots started here, with the river on one side and many miles of Detroit in all other directions. (In a convertible, no less).

Pulled over by a cruiser, "Son, do you have any idea what's going on?" (description of events)

"Do you have any weapons?"
"Yes, sir, in containers in the trunk, unloaded, with the ammo in separate containers."

"Get them, load them, and keep them on the seat, put the top up and haul ass, and (pointing at his badge number) you can quote me on that."

500 rounds and I'm feeling low on ammo.

[BigJimCalhoun]

Originally Posted by JJ_BPK

Some interesting pictures are popping up..

The original choir boy picture of TM at 12-13 yo and TM's FB pictures, that have mysteriously disappeared???..

GZ in what looks like a day-glow orange (actually looks like a red polo) county road gang work shirt and GZ's in a business suit..

Which picture would you use to get YOUR story across???

No Bias here.. NOT...

Thank you for sharing. I have not seen those pictures anywhere else.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by 99meters

Reaper, it is the law-abiding gun owners who feel that their gun qualifies them to play cop that screw things up. If you want to play cop have more than one tool ( baton, pepper, taser) that way u don't shoot unarmed (kids) suspects during a confrontation.

First, law-abiding gun owners follow the laws and do not fire their weapons when it is unwarranted. The wrongful shooting rate by CCW holders is very low.

Whether this was a justifiable shooting remains to be seen, unless you have already closed your mind to the facts.

A 17 year old male is not really a kid anymore, and is physiologically the equal to an adult, and in some cases, superior.

It remains to be seen who was the aggressor here, and whether lethal force was justified. You appear to have already decided.

I usually, but not always, carry a less than lethal weapon. The laws in most states require this of law enforcement officers, but not CCW citizens. Either you can use lethal force, or you cannot. That has nothing to do with "playing" a cop.

I will wait for the investigation to be complete before making allegations.

TR

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by plato

I was in Detroit the night the riots started here, with the river on one side and many miles of Detroit in all other directions. (In a convertible, no less).

Pulled over by a cruiser, "Son, do you have any idea what's going on?" (description of events)

"Do you have any weapons?"
"Yes, sir, in containers in the trunk, unloaded, with the ammo in separate containers."

"Get them, load them, and keep them on the seat, put the top up and haul ass, and (pointing at his badge number) you can quote me on that."

500 rounds and I'm feeling low on ammo.

What I remember is my babysitter making me come in the house when the SHTF. My Dad ran the gauntlet to check on my Grandparents who lived East of the line in a largely Black neighborhood.

Weeks later we all went to visit, I was only 5-6 years old, but still I remember the .38 Snub Nose, my Mom complaining about the pistol, the cars doors were locked, the windows were up and I remember stopping at a Police check point.

My Grandparents were never in danger, the neighbors took good care of them.

And the line, it still looks like a war zone to this day.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Paslode

What I remember is my babysitter making me come in the house when the SHTF. My Dad ran the gauntlet to check on my Grandparents who lived East of the line in a largely Black neighborhood.

Weeks later we all went to visit, I was only 5-6 years old, but still I remember the .38 Snub Nose, my Mom complaining about the pistol, the cars doors were locked, the windows were up and I remember stopping at a Police check point.

My Grandparents were never in danger, the neighbors took good care of them.

And the line, it still looks like a war zone to this day.

In what ways were the circumstances of the Detroit riot of 1967 at all similar to the events unfolding now in Florida?

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

In what ways were the circumstances of the Detroit riot of 1967 at all similar to the events unfolding now in Florida?

Common denominator of pissed-off blacks.

[Paslode]

Not to trivialize the Florida incident....but I these two stories put perspective on the subjective nature of the Media, NBPP, Rev. Al, Jesse Jackson, Holder and and Obama.

Where are on these two insidious local crimes?

Burning of Council Grove man sent to U.S. Attorney

Teens set kid on fire for being 'white boy'

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Common denominator of pissed-off blacks.

That's what I was going to say.

[Dozer523]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Common denominator of pissed-off blacks.

HEY! I was gonna say that.
Actually, I was gonna say "colored boys". But, I was gonna do it in pink.

Originally Posted by Paslode

That's what I was going to say.

I SHOULDA USED CAPS

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

In what ways were the circumstances of the Detroit riot of 1967 at all similar to the events unfolding now in Florida?

Actually I was referring to the 1968 riots.

That was similar in that a light skinned individual shot and killed a darker skinned individual.

At the time, the Blacks seemed to be upset at the death of Dr. King, I say seemed because I was only 5-6 years old and wasn't quite sure what was going on.

What really didn't make much sense was that the Blacks burned and looted their own neighborhoods....that still doesn't make sense to me.