SHERIFF JOE TO RELEASE 'INVESTIGATION' OF OBAMA...

[alright4u]

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2011/01...-hawaiis-colb/

[Go Devil]

My nephew's application to the maintenance facility at Indianapolis International Airport received more scrutinay than our current president's application for office did. My nephew was born in Germany while his father was serving in the Air Force.

F the birth certificate, his college application information would illuminate what the Birthers are picking at. Let's see what he claimed at that point.

[Pete]

Remember Mr Dan "Fake but accurate" Rather and his faked presidential "documents"?

The press will do everything in it's power to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple in America.

They're in the tank for the libs right up past their eyeballs.

[alright4u]

The man has paid more money to attorneys to block the requests under the FOIA then I have made in my life.

I wonder about that PFC Smith or was it Jones assualting against those fortified positions to take out the enemy before a round killed him. Why can't Obama stop his BS. Yes, no more law shool BS. Show your best shit one time.

[charlietwo]

The only possible reason for the administration posting an obvious forgery: a trap. The lie of the trap is just as important as whatever information the true birth cert contains.

To Richard- I agree with the dangerous road you point out, however I ask one question: Is the document a forgery? If so, it is a lie. If he is a citizen and presented a forged document to any official agency and authorities determined it to be a forgery, he would be arrested. *If* he were a normal civilian.

Now that he is President, he can present obvious lies which trap his opposition into a narrative battle. That narrative battle will always be played on the field of the media, which is like playing football with corrupt referees.

I know *why* he would lie about it, and that lie is enough for me. I know what would happen if I created a birth certificate out of whole cloth and uploaded it as a recruiter (Ft. Leavenworth as a worst case scenario). Not holding the President and his administration to the same standard is foolish.

Their narrative is "You don't believe he is a citizen." The counter narrative needs to be "An American citizen knowingly presented a forged document (lie) to the public as truth."

The reason for the lie does not excuse the lie.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by charlietwo

To Richard- I agree with the dangerous road you point out, however I ask one question: Is the document a forgery?

I understand the point and say maybe - maybe not, but I suspect we'll find out one way or another in good time. However, even if it has been altered, this POTUS has shown himself to be as politically slick as teflon-coated whale snot at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, and I'd wager there are enough cut-outs between him and any such document(s) to give him plausible deniability in claiming no knowledge of any such shenanigans...and nobody being able to prove otherwise as some-level errand boy (ala a Casper Weinberger or an Ollie North) gets smacked while the Administration, Congress, and MSM wring their hands in disbelief that such a thing could ever possibly happen again in this democratically constituted rebublic.

His track record of demonstrated ineptitude as POTUS should be enough to sink him and his party...unless the opposition is perceived to be even more inept in their machinations to unseat him.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard

His track record of demonstrated ineptitude as POTUS should be enough to sink him and his party...unless the opposition is perceived to be even more inept in their machinations to unseat him.

And so it goes...

Richard

He got elected because his PR guys and the press fooled everybody who was too lazy to research his record; a secretive, misleading and (basically) legislatively non-existant one at that. His ineptitude was obvious to everyone but the moronic Eloi who swallowed a sales blitz put together by wealthy anti-American Way stringpullers.


He's determined to drain and dismantle the construction of the Country, because he hates the way the foundation was laid. If people are blind enough to elect him again, America will fail. Even though I believe enough voters realize that, this time, we're perilously close to having a majority who want to kick back and suck the government tit.

[Richard]

Well - if America was a car, its CHECK PRESIDENT warning light would be on and I'd be leery of spending my money on one.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

With 100% voter turn out he has proven he is not exactly fair when it comes to elections.

When did this happen?

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

I believe in a fair election with impartial press he would be out.

Interestingly, the left offered similar assessments in 2000 and 2004.

MOO, the president's opposition has only itself to blame for its collective inability to gain traction. While the president's polling numbers remain down overall, the GOP has proven more capable at undermining its own credibility than the incumbent's.

So, by all means, let's stick to the script that worked so well in 2008.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=146355

My question was about the "100% voter turn out." <<LINK>>

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

My question was about the "100% voter turn out." <<LINK>>

Not everyone voted, especially the people who were intimidated away from the booths by the New Black Panther Party thugs.

[charlietwo]

Originally Posted by Richard

His track record of demonstrated ineptitude as POTUS should be enough to sink him and his party...unless the opposition is perceived to be even more inept in their machinations to unseat him.

And so it goes...

Richard

Saying he is inept is giving him too much credit. At what point does this become a planned deconstruction?

I read this a while back (http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/brainwsh.shtml) and it outlines much of what has been done in the past 50 years in the west. The past 6 years or so has been Progressive->Communism fast track under the cover of compassion. "The spread of communism has never been by force of battle, but by conquest of the mind. Pg67"

All planned... all planned.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

When did this happen? Interestingly, the left offered similar assessments in 2000 and 2004.

MOO, the president's opposition has only itself to blame for its collective inability to gain traction. While the president's polling numbers remain down overall, the GOP has proven more capable at undermining its own credibility than the incumbent's.

So, by all means, let's stick to the script that worked so well in 2008.

It doesn't matter what you do, or don't do, as long as the Propaganda Ministry spins things for you and against your opponents.

Both Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin had great press in their nations.

"A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth."

How do you change that, before the system is irrevocably corrupted?

TR

[Dusty]

Getting busted for lying about his BC will prolly be the least of his problems once he's out of office, provided the collective sanity of the Country returns.

If a guy has to cheat, mislead and hide information just to seem legal for annointment, imagine what else could be revealed.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

How do you change that, before the system is irrevocably corrupted?

TR--

MOO, the fact that the GOP did not take Bush the Younger to task in a very big way for the absence of WMDs in Iraq undermined the party's credibility for such issues in the eyes of many rank and file Democrats. (The fact that Sean Penn's sneering acceptance speech at the 76th Academy Awards drew so little heat was instructive.)

This credibility had already suffered greatly during the impeachment of President Clinton. (I remember Democrats wondering why an extramarital affair was a big deal given the escapades of Gingrich and Hyde?)

I believe that if Republicans were a track record for holding their own membership accountable in ways that resonate with the informed public, then they would gain more traction when we ask questions about Democrats and the questions resonate among Democrats.

Also, and at the risk of beating the dead horse, what America needs as much as anything is resurgence of professionalism in the Senate and the House of Representatives --or, failing that, some sort of institutional conflict between the legislative and executive branches.

My $0.02.