11-08-2011, 18:26
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That would be like reading Mein Kampf and thinking of the author as a paper hanger.
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Now there's a leap in logic worthy of a Glen Beck...
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11-08-2011, 18:42
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Now there's a leap in logic worthy of a Glen Beck...
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I'm not as insulted by being compared to Glenn Beck as I would be to be considered approving of Powell.
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11-08-2011, 18:45
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FWIW...
The transcript of GEN Powell's appearance on Meet the Press during which he endorsed the Democratic Party's candidate for the presidency is here.
Other prominent Republicans who endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee are discussed here and there.
Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself  ) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president? Naw...
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11-08-2011, 18:48
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FWIW...
The transcript of GEN Powell's appearance on Meet the Press during which he endorsed the Democratic Party's candidate for the presidency is here.
Other prominent Republicans who endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee are discussed here and there.
Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself  ) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president? Naw...
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Yeah. You Obama supporters really nailed it. We're so much better off, now. Puhleez.
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11-08-2011, 19:02
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Yeah. You Obama supporters really nailed it. We're so much better off, now. Puhleez. 
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QP Dusty--
As I've indicated elsewhere, although not recently to avoid giving myself an aneurism, I did not vote for the current president. My personal hatred for him exceeds my loathing for any other American who has ever walked this Earth.
That being said, I can acknowledge and accept that intelligent, patriotic Americans believed in the man and supported his candidacy for reasons that made sense to them.
Moreover, I believe that America has suffered through worse political leadership and, in the long run, we'll be all right after the incumbent leaves office and takes his collection of sycophantic asshats with him.
My $0.02.
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11-08-2011, 19:18
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QP Dusty--
As I've indicated elsewhere, although not recently to avoid giving myself an aneurism, I did not vote for the current president. My personal hatred for him exceeds my loathing for any other American who has ever walked this Earth.
My $0.02.
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Sig, this quote of yours: "Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself  ) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president?" understandably indicates that you didn't vote for the Palin ticket.
I assume you voted for neither, then.
Powell voted for Obama because Obama is black. Period.
That's racist, and I abhor racism.
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11-08-2011, 19:38
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Sig, this quote of yours: "Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself  ) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president?" understandably indicates that you didn't vote for the Palin ticket.
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QP Dusty--
For my own peace of mind, I'd largely stopped venting on PS.COM about the 2008 election by the time you arrived. We (the GOP) lost. They won. Time to look to 2012. Was my frame of mind. (A member or two of this BB have had to endure some ranting PMs.)
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Powell voted for [the Democratic Party's nominee] because [the Democratic Party's nominee] is black. Period.
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I often wonder (rhetorically) why is this accusation made about GEN Powell and not about other members of the GOP establishment who also broke ranks with the party and endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee. What is the logic of the argument? Why is it not consistently applied to others who crossed over from red to blue? What is the evidence (i.e., a letter, memorandum of conversation, an eyewitness account, or even triple hearsay twice removed) of GEN Powell trading horses? Or are we now the same as our friends on the opposite side of the aisle and hold an accusation to be the same thing as proof?
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11-08-2011, 19:46
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QP Dusty--
For my own peace of mind, I'd largely stopped venting on PS.COM about the 2008 election by the time you arrived. We (the GOP) lost. They won. Time to look to 2012. Was my frame of mind. (A member or two of this BB have had to endure some ranting PMs.)
I often wonder (rhetorically) why is this accusation made about GEN Powell and not about other members of the GOP establishment who also broke ranks with the party and endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee. What is the logic of the argument? Why is it not consistently applied to others who crossed over from red to blue? What is the evidence (i.e., a letter, memorandum of conversation, an eyewitness account, or even triple hearsay twice removed) of GEN Powell trading horses? Or are we now the same as our friends on the opposite side of the aisle and hold an accusation to be the same thing as proof? 
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C'mon, Bro. You're a good enough historian to know the importance of Powell's stance at the crux of the selection process.
"Simplify..."
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11-08-2011, 19:59
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Powell voted for Obama because Obama is black. Period. That's racist, and I abhor racism.
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Hmmmmmmm....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223...ranscript-oct/
And so it goes...
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11-08-2011, 20:12
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Colin Powell and the Americal.
Sorry. I knew a great S3 in A Co 6th Group who had been in the Americal. T.L. Smith had been an EM/NCO and was a master blaster after MFFP course. He had very little good to say about that unit in 69 as an O-3
Powell goes from a BDE XO to DIV. Then he is a BN CO in 73. Try the most sought after BN in Korea. The 31st. He was not much and I am serious. He was on the AA fast track.
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11-08-2011, 20:29
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Richard, I've been aware of that interview since it happened.
It's obvious what he did, and there's no way to sugar coat it.
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11-09-2011, 13:42
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Sig, this quote of yours: "Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself  ) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president?" understandably indicates that you didn't vote for the Palin ticket.
I assume you voted for neither, then.
Powell voted for Obama because Obama is black. Period.
That's racist, and I abhor racism.
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I totally agree with Dusty...........
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11-08-2011, 19:06
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I thought it was a wonderful read. Thanks Richard!
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11-08-2011, 19:15
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I thought it was a wonderful read. Thanks Richard!
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I enjoyed it as well, and found it quite fitting for this upcoming Veterans' Day.
Sigaba - I enjoyed this phrase in your response: " collection of sycophantic asshats"
However you could have made the phrase worthy of Spiro Agnew had you said " coterie of sycophantic asshats"!
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11-08-2011, 19:36
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All Powell Fans.
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I enjoyed it as well, and found it quite fitting for this upcoming Veterans' Day.
Sigaba - I enjoyed this phrase in your response: " collection of sycophantic asshats"
However you could have made the phrase worthy of Spiro Agnew had you said " coterie of sycophantic asshats"! 
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