08-09-2011, 06:56
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And when parents come to pick up curfew violators, the mayor said, they’ll be told to keep track of the child.
“If you don’t even bother to pick up your child, we are immediately calling the Department of Human Services, and you can then be taken to court for other violations including neglect of your child,” he warned.
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Although I agree with this course of action...this is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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08-09-2011, 07:03
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I was talking to a local "conservative" about bus service. I was complaining about the cost of running bus service out to the newly annexed parts of the city. I was like "If people need bus service they should move and live near areas that have bus service". He was like "But Bus service is a basic city service" and I replied "What did they do for transportation before they were annexed?".
Services cost money ..............
I think everyone wants cuts - but just not in anything they use.
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I think there's other issues where the "services" and forced annexation are concerned. I agree, the people in those areas used to find other ways to get around town. Likewise they also had other municiple services for trash, water, electricity, etc. However, when the city decided to annex and tax the entire area...the citizens were right to demand busing and other services they were being forced to pay for.
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08-09-2011, 07:24
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..........the citizens were right to demand busing and other services they were being forced to pay for.
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Ah, but that's the key. Bus service is expensive, so is trash collection by city workers - gets into that whole pay and pension thing.
Yes, the folks out in Cliffdale West will have to pay more in taxes - but taxes will now go up on everyone to pay for the expanded services. Government grows and so do the costs.
Not everyone can work for the Government. The Cumberland County School system alone employs just under 7,000 workers. Add in all the other government workers from the cities of Cumberland County plus the rest of the County workers and you'll see government services are the biggest employer in the area after the Military.
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08-09-2011, 07:33
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Although I agree with this course of action...this is just a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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And when parents come to pick up curfew violators, the mayor said, they’ll be told to keep track of the child.
“If you don’t even bother to pick up your child, we are immediately calling the Department of Human Services, and you can then be taken to court for other violations including neglect of your child,” he warned
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He doesn't get his target audience at all.
The use of the term parents, as in plural is not appilcable. And I'm sure the DHS - an organization that runs like a well oiled machine will have no problem stepping in and handling all those new "clients".....
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08-09-2011, 08:33
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He doesn't get his target audience at all.
The use of the term parents, as in plural is not appilcable. And I'm sure the DHS - an organization that runs like a well oiled machine will have no problem stepping in and handling all those new "clients".....
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Agreed. A good percentage of these "kids" are already in the DHS system and without parents. Grandma or auntie are attemting to raise them...with negative results. These animals are less "pre-revoluttionary" and more plain punks IMHO. They would not know WTF a revolution was anyway.
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08-09-2011, 08:55
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Ah, but that's the key. Bus service is expensive, so is trash collection by city workers - gets into that whole pay and pension thing.
Yes, the folks out in Cliffdale West will have to pay more in taxes - but taxes will now go up on everyone to pay for the expanded services. Government grows and so do the costs.
Not everyone can work for the Government. The Cumberland County School system alone employs just under 7,000 workers. Add in all the other government workers from the cities of Cumberland County plus the rest of the County workers and you'll see government services are the biggest employer in the area after the Military.
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Oh believe me I agree with you. My wife is an employee of the Cumberland County School system...and at one time (pre big-bang annex) I lived on that side of town. Of course I bought in the county...versus the city...for the lowered taxes, realizing that I was going to have a septic system, no busing, etc. My outrage over the whole annexation issue is the fact that Fayetteville chose to do it without looking at second and third order effects and immediately raised taxes without increases services.
I was lucky, I was able to sell my house, (off of Rim Road), before the area turned into a complete rental zone.
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08-09-2011, 10:34
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They would not know WTF a revolution was anyway.
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But they're wearing 'Mao' t-shirts and 'Che' guerrilla chic hats from Old Navy...
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08-09-2011, 16:18
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I'm not sure if I'm pre-revolutionary or pre-menstrual.
Do they feel the same?
No wait. I'm too old to be pre-menstrual so maybe I'm pre-revolutionary. I always thought i was post-revolutionary.
Dammit this stuff's complicated!
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08-09-2011, 17:01
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I'm not sure if I'm pre-revolutionary or pre-menstrual.
Do they feel the same?
No wait. I'm too old to be pre-menstrual so maybe I'm pre-revolutionary. I always thought i was post-revolutionary.
Dammit this stuff's complicated! 
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Pre-menstrual?
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08-09-2011, 18:19
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Pre-menstrual?
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He looks closer to post-menopausal....
Just sayin...
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10-06-2011, 14:42
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http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/R...0/06/id/413536
Rush Limbaugh contends that President Barack Obama is "setting up riots" through the Occupy Wall Street protests that are spreading across the country.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that the White House is behind this,” he said. “Obama is setting up riots. He is fanning the flames.”
The “anarchists” and “union thugs” who are rallying against corporate greed are Obama’s constituents, Limbaugh said.
“Occupy Wall Street is his base,” he said. “Those are his foot soldiers.”
Calling Obama’s news conference about the American Jobs Act this morning “incompetence on parade,” Limbaugh said the nearly $450 billion spending package has no chance of curing the economic ills.
“Somebody explain to me how spending $450 billion is going to get every bridge repaired, every school repaired, every road repaired,” he said. “This is utter foolishness.”
Obama is “trying to sell the notion that this bill . . . is a magic elixir,” Limbaugh said.
“He’s the one screwing everybody,” he said. “He’s the one happily managing the decline of the United States of America.”
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10-06-2011, 15:11
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I'm sure Soros is in there somewhere as well, otherwise they probably wouldn't of lasted as long as they have so far, it takes some cash money to keep going like that. Ironic, since Soros is a member of "millionaire's to be taxed" crowd; I wonder what his 1040 looks like, I'm sure the libs aren't too concerned with the amount of loopholes he utilizes, as long as the dough keeps rolling in.
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10-06-2011, 15:14
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http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/R...0/06/id/413536
Rush Limbaugh contends that President Barack Obama is "setting up riots" through the Occupy Wall Street protests that are spreading across the country.
“There’s no doubt in my mind that the White House is behind this,” he said. “Obama is setting up riots. He is fanning the flames.”
The “anarchists” and “union thugs” who are rallying against corporate greed are Obama’s constituents, Limbaugh said.
“Occupy Wall Street is his base,” he said. “Those are his foot soldiers.”
Calling Obama’s news conference about the American Jobs Act this morning “incompetence on parade,” Limbaugh said the nearly $450 billion spending package has no chance of curing the economic ills.
“Somebody explain to me how spending $450 billion is going to get every bridge repaired, every school repaired, every road repaired,” he said. “This is utter foolishness.”
Obama is “trying to sell the notion that this bill . . . is a magic elixir,” Limbaugh said.
“He’s the one screwing everybody,” he said. “He’s the one happily managing the decline of the United States of America.”
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I am not surprised considering O has encourage most if not all of the 2011 Worldwide protest. Van Jones and SEUI are in the middle of it. Even the likes of Rush hater Alex Jones believes that Obama and Dems are manipulating this.
From Solyndra to Fast & Furious the wheels are falling off the train, and the only way to maintain what they have achieved is to shut the system down.
Politico is reporting that Law makers are receiving death threats.
AND our very own Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers has thrown in his support
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10-06-2011, 17:33
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I wish the best of luck to the protester's efforts in driving away all of those rich people and businesses.
I would also invite all those rich people and businesses to move to Arizona.
That's a win-win solution in my book.
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10-06-2011, 19:38
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I find that interesting in that in getting out and talking to some people I am surprised now and then.
I was talking to a local "conservative" about bus service. I was complaining about the cost of running bus service out to the newly annexed parts of the city. I was like "If people need bus service they should move and live near areas that have bus service". He was like "But Bus service is a basic city service" and I replied "What did they do for transportation before they were annexed?".
Services cost money ..............
I think everyone wants cuts - but just not in anything they use.
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Just an opinion. If a city annexes area to increase it's tax base it is disingenuous not to offer the same services. Otherwise screw the city and the politicians. IMHO they are just pandering to their non-productive voters.
"Rush Limbaugh contends that President Barack Obama is "setting up riots" through the Occupy Wall Street protests that are spreading across the country."
I'm fairly close to retirement and these people are shitting pretty close to my rice bowl. I don't listen to Rush but I may start keeping a list.
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