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Old 08-06-2011, 12:14   #1
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Another storm - maybe big?

Man I wish I had an HF rig setup here. I used to dream of the next solar peak back when I first got my license (just after the last peak).

The story of the 1859 storm is incredible - telegraphs operating without their batteries. Northern Lights visible from the Caribbean. This one they're calling for visibility from MN and WI. Still pretty amazing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7746UA20110806
Power companies prepare as solar storms set to hit Earth
1:04pm EDT

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Three large explosions from the Sun over the past few days have prompted U.S. government scientists to caution users of satellite, telecommunications and electric equipment to prepare for possible disruptions over the next few days.

"The magnetic storm that is soon to develop probably will be in the moderate to strong level," said Joseph Kunches, a space weather scientist at the Space Weather Prediction Center, a division of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

He said solar storms this week could affect communications and global positioning system (GPS) satellites and might even produce an aurora visible as far south as Minnesota and Wisconsin.

An aurora, called aurora borealis or the northern lights in northern latitudes, is a natural light display in the sky in the Arctic and Antarctic regions caused by the collision of energetic charged particles with atoms in the high altitude atmosphere.

Major disruptions from solar activity are rare but have had serious impacts in the past.

In 1989, a solar storm took down the power grid in Quebec, Canada, leaving about six million people without power for several hours.

The largest solar storm ever recorded was in 1859 when communications infrastructure was limited to telegraphs.

The 1859 solar storm hit telegraph offices around the world and caused a giant aurora visible as far south as the Caribbean Islands.

Some telegraph operators reported electric shocks. Papers caught fire. And many telegraph systems continued to send and receive signals even after operators disconnected batteries, NOAA said on its website.

A storm of similar magnitude today could cause up to $2 trillion in damage globally, according to a 2008 report by the National Research Council.

"I don't think this week's solar storms will be anywhere near that. This will be a two or three out of five on the NOAA Space Weather Scale," said Kunches.

SOLAR SCALE

The NOAA Space Weather Scale measures the intensity of a solar storm from one being the lowest intensity to five being the highest, similar to scales that measure the severity of hurricanes, tornadoes and earthquakes.

The first of the three solar explosions from the sun this week already passed the Earth on Thursday with little impact, Kunches said, noting, the second was passing the Earth now and "seems to be stronger."

And the third, he said, "We'll have to see what happens over the next few days. It could exacerbate the disturbance in the Earth's magnetic field caused by the second (storm) or do nothing at all."

Power grid managers receive alerts from the Space Weather Prediction Center to tell them to prepare for solar events, which peak about every 12 years, Tom Bogdan, director of the center said.

He said the next peak, called a solar maximum, was expected in 2013.

"We're coming up to the next solar maximum, so we expect to see more of these storms coming from the sun over the next three to five years," Bogdan said.

(Reporting by Scott DiSavino; Editing by Alden Bentley)
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Old 08-10-2011, 14:05   #2
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Man I wish I had an HF rig setup here. I used to dream of the next solar peak back when I first got my license (just after the last peak).

The story of the 1859 storm is incredible - telegraphs operating without their batteries. Northern Lights visible from the Caribbean. This one they're calling for visibility from MN and WI. Still pretty amazing.
Past few days some guys who were limited to SSB skills were really crying; sounded as if they'd been holed up with Al Gore or something. Dang, I was so busy discounting the gloom & doom that said I couldn't communicate, while keying up the Vibroplex with the guy in New Zealand, that I forgot to look outside to see if there were any pretty green lights dancing...
Shucks.

Apparently there was a X6.9 size solar flare approx 0800Z yesterday.
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Old 08-10-2011, 16:54   #3
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ya know....I'm happy this is happening...with all the "we don't do HF anymore...it's obsolete" stuff....

Refering to the thread HF is going away in 18E course....nt gonna happen...anyway...maybe wake some eyes up on how sensitive/vulnerable this high speed/technical/gadgetry is...

But yup...higher the better...(well, as long as we're not gettin microwaved) higher freqs...shorter antennas...LOL...don't gotta bust your ass so far through the bush...haaa
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Old 03-07-2012, 21:52   #4
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Solar Weather Resources

More resources to track Solar Weather. Got this at work from a Pimblegram.

Subject: Solar storms and impacts

The sun is quite active at this time, and you’ll likely hear news reports of this storming. For better understanding, here are some links to NOAA and USAF space weather sites. The Air Force and NOAA share similar capabilities but present them differently, each according to the needs of their users.

NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
SWPC and Johns Hopkins auroral forecast (test): http://helios.swpc.noaa.gov/ovation/
NOAA Space Weather Scales (including impacts and frequency of occurrence): http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales/ (NOAA Scales table in Adobe .pdf format)
The NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center maintains a Facebook page that is currently an experimental effort. It often includes highlights explained in a user-friendly discussion: http://www.facebook.com/pages/NOAA-N...32532740131296

Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA) Space Weather Page: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/jaawin/space/main.jsp (Requires CAC and may require registration. Note: many of the data linked from this site are rather arcane and require significant background for understanding.)
Global Situational Awareness: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/static/s...es/E&IMap.html
Discussion: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/JAAWINSu...SPACE~SPWXSUM2
Reported impacts: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/JAAWINSu...SPACE~SPWXSUM4

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If you start seeing transformers blowing & catching fire head to the nearest grocery store and stock up!
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Curious to see the effect if any on COMSATs.
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If you start seeing transformers blowing & catching fire head to the nearest grocery store and stock up!
CME x 2 and here we still are. Short periods of various HF bands (voice) in the tank all weekend but nothing largely shutdown. ('Course the airliners & Airbus freight guys on the polar routes, with that 44' section of tail as their antenna, get affected more than most.)

I did fail in terms of standing around waiting for the TEOTWAWKI.
Munchies already stocked. Yawn; went anywhere I wanted on CW.
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Bump!

Interesting article on the magnetosphere. Looks like the north pole has been colluding with Russia!

"Most of the experts also believe that a pole flip is still a long way off, but what everybody agrees on is that the magnetic north pole is moving toward Russia at an accelerating pace…

But what’s really catching attention is the acceleration in movement. Around the mid-1990s, the pole suddenly sped up its movements from just over 9 miles (15 kilometers) a year to 34 miles (55 kilometers) annually. As of last year, the pole careened over the international date line toward the Eastern Hemisphere."


So, the Klintons were in office in the 1990s and the north pole accelerates moving closer to Russia. Coincidence? Hmmm.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ly-accelerated
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More resources to track Solar Weather. Got this at work from a Pimblegram.

Subject: Solar storms and impacts

The sun is quite active at this time, and you’ll likely hear news reports of this storming. For better understanding, here are some links to NOAA and USAF space weather sites. The Air Force and NOAA share similar capabilities but present them differently, each according to the needs of their users.

NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
SWPC and Johns Hopkins auroral forecast (test): http://helios.swpc.noaa.gov/ovation/
NOAA Space Weather Scales (including impacts and frequency of occurrence): http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales/ (NOAA Scales table in Adobe .pdf format)
The NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center maintains a Facebook page that is currently an experimental effort. It often includes highlights explained in a user-friendly discussion: http://www.facebook.com/pages/NOAA-N...32532740131296

Air Force Weather Agency (AFWA) Space Weather Page: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/jaawin/space/main.jsp (Requires CAC and may require registration. Note: many of the data linked from this site are rather arcane and require significant background for understanding.)
Global Situational Awareness: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/static/s...es/E&IMap.html
Discussion: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/JAAWINSu...SPACE~SPWXSUM2
Reported impacts: https://weather.afwa.af.mil/JAAWINSu...SPACE~SPWXSUM4

If you have questions/need more information for official purposes, please contact us.

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Staff Weather Office
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Ft Bragg, NC 28310

http://www.spaceweather.com is another good link.

If you are working in the HF range there is some good information that can be derived from the superDARN site (http://vt.superdarn.org/tiki-index.php)
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