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Old 05-01-2011, 08:52   #16
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Penn,

Have you considered an electric fence? I considered installing one around my garden, but for smaller plots it's not very cost effective.

Gallagher claims to have good success protecting deer food plots. For more information:

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:27   #17
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AXE, I particularly want to thank you for posting a reply; with 55 posts over the 6+ years that was a bit chatty for you, so thanks for taking the time.
LOL, Glad to lend my .02.

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Old 05-01-2011, 11:00   #18
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Penn,

Have you considered an electric fence? I considered installing one around my garden, but for smaller plots it's not very cost effective.

Gallagher claims to have good success protecting deer food plots. For more information:

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Electric fencing can work. I have not had much experience using it for deer. Used properly it can be very effective for bear and mountain lion.

Nebraska has done a great job compiling damage mitigation measures for various wildlife species. This link will take you to a manual that has been quite helpful for me. The mother website has changed significantly since I last visited it, but the manual appears to be very similar, if not the same. One measure I know of and I don't recall where I heard or read is that to train deer to the fence one should wrap small rectangles of aluminum foil around a hot wire and then coat it with peanut butter. I've not seen it myself, but would imagine the it would "learn 'em purdy good".

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Old 05-01-2011, 15:51   #19
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Monthly we spend $40per/wk on herbs, $500/wk on the produce I listed earlier, plus another 200+/- on things like peeled garlic, oranges. apples etc.

To date I've spent $223 on herbs, tomato, carrot, squash and other plants; that if I can bring to fruition, will save me several thousand, plus pay for the portable solar fence in one season.

Also, if I understand my rotation correctly, I'll have two harvest. The first around the middle of July and the second in late September.

I know there are many members here with farming experience. If you have the time please share your hard fought knowledge with us. In appreciation that you will, I want to thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
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Old 05-01-2011, 16:09   #20
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Monthly we spend $40per/wk on herbs, $500/wk on the produce I listed earlier, plus another 200+/- on things like peeled garlic, oranges. apples etc.

To date I've spent $223 on herbs, tomato, carrot, squash and other plants; that if I can bring to fruition, will save me several thousand, plus pay for the portable solar fence in one season.

Also, if I understand my rotation correctly, I'll have two harvest. The first around the middle of July and the second in late September.

I know there are many members here with farming experience. If you have the time please share your hard fought knowledge with us. In appreciation that you will, I want to thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
In Missouri critters are only a minor annoyance compared to weeds, insects, and diseases. Do you have access to mulch for weed control? Are you using chemicals
or organic? Weeding takes ALOT of time. I have found a ton of advice on youtube, such as composting. good luck!
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Old 05-01-2011, 19:17   #21
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We are organic, as for weeding, I have a few employees that need to stay employed so weeding isn't an issue. I am constructing elevated beds.

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Old 05-01-2011, 21:09   #22
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I know there are many members here with farming experience. If you have the time please share your hard fought knowledge with us. In appreciation that you will, I want to thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Penn, I think your gardening idea is great. There's nothing better than fresh-from-the-garden produce.

We've had great success using the Mittleider Method for growing crops. We plant in raised beds and use Mittleider's "recipe" for adding organic nutrients to the soil. Our plants are large and vigorous producers - we get a lot out of a small space. I highly recommend it.

The nutrient recipe might be in the free ebook, available at the website (link above). If not, and you're interested in the recipe, I'll see if I can dig it up. (No pun intended. )

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Old 05-13-2011, 14:24   #23
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Though I haven't used it myself, I saw a very successful application of fencing, both to cut down deer depredations and to maximize growing space. Two 5 foot fences separated by a 5 foot space. Use the internal fencing to elevate your vine producers and for beans, peas and such like.

I AM planning on using this if I'm in a place where I need it.

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Old 07-03-2011, 11:51   #24
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I have lease a plot of land with the intent of growing herb, vegetables, Fingerling Potato's, Beef steak Tomato, radishes, Carrots, Yellow squash, Green onions, Broccoli and wildflowers.

I have no knowledge about turning the earth other than what I've gleamed from the internet, a substantial resource to say the least. I've been told that I'll lose 50% of my garden to the local pets- Deers.

Everyone states there is nothing you can do.This site at Rutgers U. list a number of plants which are deer resistant. http://njaes.rutgers.edu/deerresistance/
Then an old pisano told me to save my piss and go to a barber shop ask them for the hair trimmings; then spread it around the perimeter it will keep the deer away.
I get the marking concept, but was wondering if there were other helpful suggestion that were organic and as effective?

how's the critter war going? I'm happy to report that my garden is incident free so far using the human urine method. Now if I could beat the tomato diseases.
I'll let you know if the cornmeal gluten method works or not.
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What the growers use here are deer fences, they are about 8 foot high. Grape growers use them too.

This is from the OSU extension service:

http://extension.oregonstate.edu/cat.../ec/ec1557.pdf
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:12   #26
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An interesting article on modern tomatoes


http://www.npr.org/2011/06/28/137371...cc=es-20110703
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