Philly Fuzz Threatens to Make Life Uncomfortable for Legal Open Carriers

[RB]

Originally Posted by rdret1

If I am not mistaken, he stated that he had a CCW, which would have covered the concealment. Mistakes were made on both sides apparently.

sorry brother, but you are mistaken. He was Open Carrying, which is legal in Pa. Read the entirety of the interaction and listen to the recording.

No license, permit, nothing needed for OC.

Opencarry.org is an excellent site for rules, laws, regs on when and where you need what and when, in every state.

I personally turn on my DVR when I leave the house as I tend to OC a lot here in Fayetteville. It has 36 hrs of recordable time and the daily recording can be erased, making room for tomorrow. You never know when a clueless LEO will draw down on you and demand proof that you need permission to express your god given American right to defend yourself.

RTKBA.

Originally Posted by RB

sorry brother, but you are mistaken. He was Open Carrying, which is legal in Pa. Read the entirety of the interaction and listen to the recording.

No license, permit, nothing needed for OC.

Opencarry.org is an excellent site for rules, laws, regs on when and where you need what and when, in every state.

RTKBA.

He was in Philadelphia (a city of the First Class ) and according to Opencarry.org a permit is required there.


In Pennsylvania, persons 18 years of age and older whom are not prohibited by law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgun in plain sight with no license except in vehicles*, cities of the first class** (Philadelphia) and where prohibited specifically by statute.

Ref.: Title 18, ch.61, Subchapter A. Uniform Firearms Act & Commonwealth v. Ortiz

* Open carry in a vehicle requires a valid PA License to Carry Firearms (LTCF) or a carry license from ANY other state. Ref: Title 18 §6106

** Open carry in a city of the first class requires a valid PA LTCF or a carry license from a reciprocal state. Ref: Title 18 §6108, Title 18 §6106

Carrying concealed (with LTCF) or openly in establishments that serve alcohol is allowed in Pennsylvania.

There is no stipulation in neither the PA code nor case law that a PA LTCF holder must carry concealed. Furthermore, lawful open carry of a firearm is NOT grounds for revocation of a PA LTCF as it is neither an illegal nor dangerous act.

[rdret1]

Originally Posted by RB

sorry brother, but you are mistaken. He was Open Carrying, which is legal in Pa. Read the entirety of the interaction and listen to the recording.

No license, permit, nothing needed for OC.

Opencarry.org is an excellent site for rules, laws, regs on when and where you need what and when, in every state.

I personally turn on my DVR when I leave the house as I tend to OC a lot here in Fayetteville. It has 36 hrs of recordable time and the daily recording can be erased, making room for tomorrow. You never know when a clueless LEO will draw down on you and demand proof that you need permission to express your god given American right to defend yourself.

RTKBA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-vUYeJXSrA

Listen to it again. At 28 seconds, he asks the officer if he would like to see his driver license and permit to carry the firearm. At 37 seconds, he tells the officer "I am going to hand you my license to carry firearms." At 1:12, he says "I have a license to carry firearms." He stated the reason he carried in the open was because that was how he felt comfortable carrying it.

By what he said several times, he has a CCW permit. As for someone "baiting" an officer in some fashion, it happens all of the time. They do it to get out of tickets, to keep from being arrested, or just for the fame and notoriety.