05-15-2011, 20:31
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If I could afford one I'd get an HK MP5 clone in 10mm. Out of a carbine, 10mm is a great performer. I had to give up my duty one, but would have gladly kept it. We use the Federal 190gr JHP but if you can get the "hi" locking piece (as in high pressure), you could look at using "real" 10mm instead of .40 Long.
Another option, especially since you want interchangeability with your sidearm... look at the Kriss TDI (they have fixed some of the teething problems from the early models), and a G21. Same ammo, same mags.
Let us know what you decide.
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05-18-2011, 13:36
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I carried the Baretta 40cal as a duty weapon for years. I bought an Oly 40cal upper for my duty carbine. I liked it very much. It was more accurate than the pistol, and gave much more distance options than the pistol. The reasons I bought the Oly 40 were; free ammo, need of a carbine for duty, and ability of using the same ammo in my carbine, as well as magazines. I bought two large capacity mags for the Baretta, and modified them to work in the AR. The standard 40 Oly upper uses Sten magazines, modified by the addition of a mag block to the magazine itself.
The Oly 40 I used has an 11.5" barrel with welded flash hider, to bring it to 16". Since I got the SBR lower, I removed same useless flash hider. I'd like to chrono it. I would imagine you would get more FPS out of an 11.5" barrel, as opposed to the short Baretta barrel. The accuracy of the carbine with the 40 pistol ammo was nice.
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Oh, and when I added it to the M203, I could call it my 40/40... 
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05-18-2011, 13:44
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I saw an interview with a Sheriff who carried a M1928A1. Heavy, but pretty good at normal gunfight range, I guess.
It would flat tear up a car door.
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05-18-2011, 14:52
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Originally Posted by Dusty
I saw an interview with a Sheriff who carried a M1928A1. Heavy, but pretty good at normal gunfight range, I guess.
It would flat tear up a car door.
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When I was younger, I had a nut for the Thompson,, Until I picked one up.
They go just short of 11 lbs empty.
Grab a couple of 50 rd drums or bag of 20rd mags,, and you have the makings of a good hernia story..
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05-18-2011, 16:19
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.300 Whisper?
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05-18-2011, 17:03
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.45 cal....
The new Kriss vector SMG. appears to be the hot item.
45 cal, low recoil , 5.5 lbs, and full auto available.
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05-18-2011, 21:36
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TR- I have a Ruger SS Security Six in .357 Magnum as a side arm when I hunt pigs. I have thought about getting a Lever-action in the same for shits and giggles. If I find a deal on one, I will buy it. I have a Ruger .44 Mag Deerfield that I picked up from a friend who needed some cash... Fun to mess around with....
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05-19-2011, 06:32
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TR- I have a Ruger SS Security Six in .357 Magnum as a side arm when I hunt pigs. I have thought about getting a Lever-action in the same for shits and giggles. If I find a deal on one, I will buy it. I have a Ruger .44 Mag Deerfield that I picked up from a friend who needed some cash... Fun to mess around with....
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Nice piece.
Avoid the Winchester .357 carbines like the plague.
I got less than 50 rounds through a brand new one and the cartridge stop lip on the loading lever broke off and jammed it up.
My gunsmith welded it up, but said most of the Win 94 carbines he had seen in .357 had this problem.
Depending on the size of the pigs, I like the Marlin Guide Guns in .45-70 with handloads. Not a good pistol round though.
TR
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05-19-2011, 06:49
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TR,
I've handled one of the .45-70 revolvers and it's owner had shot it.
"Owner" was Col. Rex Applegate. Why did he have one? Because he could.
On serious note, handguns have to be shootable. I've shot "stupid" calibers before, stuff that makes a .44 magnum feel like a .22. You can get real injuries from recoil, the stuff that doesn't heal very well.
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05-19-2011, 07:07
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The most enjoyable way to kill a hog is with dogs and a knife.
That's what I heard.
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05-19-2011, 07:59
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Dusty- And I heard that if you put your tongue on a frozen flagpole, it won't stick to it!
TR- Thanks for the info on the Win 94. I use a M70 in .270 or a Rem 700 in .308 for pigs. Here in California, most shots for pig are across canyons or hills. The one thing I want to do sometime is have a Milsurp pig hunt. I have a K31 that I would like to try in the field...
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05-19-2011, 08:02
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Dusty- And I heard that if you put your tongue on a frozen flagpole, it won't stick to it!
TR- Thanks for the info on the Win 94. I use a M70 in .270 or a Rem 700 in .308 for pigs. Here in California, most shots for pig are across canyons or hills. The one thing I want to do sometime is have a Milsurp pig hunt. I have a K31 that I would like to try in the field...
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Hey, ark orty ik! I ought oo aid y ongue ouldn' ick!
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05-19-2011, 09:20
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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey
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On serious note, handguns have to be shootable. I've shot "stupid" calibers before, stuff that makes a .44 magnum feel like a .22. You can get real injuries from recoil, the stuff that doesn't heal very well.
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Bill, I can tell you from experience that a 30.06 pistol is not fun to shoot! Yes, the wrist will hurt for a "bit" aftewards. Yes, I can be stupid at times.
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05-19-2011, 09:27
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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey
TR,
I've handled one of the .45-70 revolvers and it's owner had shot it.
"Owner" was Col. Rex Applegate. Why did he have one? Because he could.
On serious note, handguns have to be shootable. I've shot "stupid" calibers before, stuff that makes a .44 magnum feel like a .22. You can get real injuries from recoil, the stuff that doesn't heal very well.
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I shot a .50 Peacekeeper in a Thompson Center pistol with JD Jones one day.
I think I'll stick with the long gun version.
TR
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05-19-2011, 10:40
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I once shot an 8.5 inch barreled side by side 12 ga. Still have the scar in the web of my right hand caused by the locking lever 
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